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Verizon Hardware (Anyone have details and/or photos?)

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 9:07 pm
by Scott A. Thompson
I am interested in the physical exterior differences of an X60s with and without integrated EV-DO Verizon wireless. From photos on the Internet it appears there is a small "bump" on the side of the cover for the antenna. I can live with that, but is all of the rest of the "hardware" inside or is there also a card that goes in the PC Card slot? If so, does the card protrude from the side of the computer? (I currently use a Verizon PC card in my X41 and would sure like not to have the card sticking out of the side about an inch with the antenna sticking up an inch and half like I have now.) Any photos anyone can post would be appreciated!

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 9:35 pm
by JHEM
The EVDO card is internal, nothing protrudes from the machines.

Regards,

James

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 9:43 pm
by Scott A. Thompson
Is there an antenna bump on the side of the display?

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 10:16 pm
by JHEM
Scott A. Thompson wrote:Is there an antenna bump on the side of the display?
Yes.

Regards,

James

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:43 am
by RS_003
The WWAN Card is the seccond mini-pci card.

So If you want to you can add it later (Tough you will have to replace the TFT Bezel, because otherwise you don't have the antenna)

Picture Inside

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:15 pm
by wirels
The antenna is stupid small. This is my x60s (1704). I never actually notice it's there.

http://www.ferrante.org/antenna.jpg

Just ordered a bag and slip case from WaterField Designs (sfbags.com) with the aircraft seat buckle on the front. Thing should be sweet!

Bill[/url]

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:39 pm
by dfumento
My Waterfield Small Cozmo is being delivered tomorrow. I'm also getting the vertical sleeve with shoulder belt for when I want the laptop alone.

Yes, indeed you really can't tell the antenna is there.
Nice to have the Verizon EVDO built in.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:07 pm
by BryanHarig
Since the verizon EVDO card is a miniPCI is it possible to replace it with a similar Sprint EVDO miniPCI card? They use the exact same technology.

I believe sprint offers an integrated card in some panasonic laptops so they should be available.

I am interested to know if anyone is aware of issues with doing this... IE: driver issues or incompatibilitys between cards?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:40 am
by thibouille27
If this is a minipci card, then on laptops without EVDO, there is a free minipci slot waiting to be used?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:35 pm
by pdudas
thibouille27 wrote:If this is a minipci card, then on laptops without EVDO, there is a free minipci slot waiting to be used?
No!

In my X60 there is no second slot for the wan card. The slot connector is not soldered to the motherboard, so my machine is not upgradeabe with internal wan card...

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:42 pm
by thibouille27
MMmm I should have known... could have been really cool :lol:

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:40 am
by BillMorrow
i would be interested to learn if it IS possible to swap the sierra wireless with the sprint card..

and thus escape the lock in with verizon..

also, there appears to be a sim card socket in with the memory in the X60s..

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:55 pm
by Saml01
BillMorrow wrote:i would be interested to learn if it IS possible to swap the sierra wireless with the sprint card..

and thus escape the lock in with verizon..

also, there appears to be a sim card socket in with the memory in the X60s..
yes I am definetley going to investigate this when I get my machine.

Can you take pics of this sim card socket?

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:12 pm
by laughingtonto
Saml01 wrote:
BillMorrow wrote:i would be interested to learn if it IS possible to swap the sierra wireless with the sprint card..

and thus escape the lock in with verizon..

also, there appears to be a sim card socket in with the memory in the X60s..
yes I am definetley going to investigate this when I get my machine.

Can you take pics of this sim card socket?
I wonder if the SIM card socket is for a cingular data card?

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:44 pm
by Saml01
laughingtonto wrote:
Saml01 wrote: yes I am definetley going to investigate this when I get my machine.

Can you take pics of this sim card socket?
I wonder if the SIM card socket is for a cingular data card?
Unpossible. Its a Evdo reciever in their. CDMA does not use sim cards.

UNLESSS...... the sim card slot is their for just the sake of being there if there is a cingular reciever in the computer.

i dont think lenovo offers edge cards in their machines.

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:34 pm
by jmt
BillMorrow wrote:i would be interested to learn if it IS possible to swap the sierra wireless with the sprint card..

and thus escape the lock in with verizon..

also, there appears to be a sim card socket in with the memory in the X60s..
I also would like to use a Sprint card.

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:27 pm
by wirels
I've heard that EVDO service from Sprint isn't all that hot. I've also read Robert Scoble's blog where he cancelled his Cingular data account and switched to Verizon and is very happy.

I've had the Verizon service now for several months. I'm actually on it right now hanging out in the lobby of the Boardwalk Resort at Disney. It's nothing short of fantastic. As long as you're not bit torrenting 500+meg files, I'm sure you'll be very pleased.

Bill

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:21 pm
by christopher_wolf
wirels wrote: As long as you're not bit torrenting 500+meg files, I'm sure you'll be very pleased.

Bill

Just a note in general; BitTorrenting puts a *very* heavy strain on the network. It isn't like TCP which goes a ways into easing network congestion; still, even TCP depends on the applications on either end abiding by the protocols in a sane and predictable manner.

Bittorrent isn't something that is going to do that. If delayed or otherwise interrupted in any one stream, BT will spin off thread after thread after thread and paired connections trying to keep the speed of even a single share up; it simply reaches out and grabs all the resources it sees/hopes are available to get the file at a reasonable rate. It gets even worse once you consider that stuff like VoIP (Skype) use stateless protocols, such as UDP, that don't have any congestion management at all. Just a few clients like that connecting to more than one endpoint can crank up the load on the connection many fold. :)