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I think undervolted/clocking might make the X60 cooler
Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:36 pm
by jl123
I propose X60 users trying to undervolt/clock (the way many on the X40 boards do to save battery life) their machines as this might serve to make these hot running machines run cooler.
Any thoughts on such trials? if anyone wants to experiemnt I'm willing to go along with some trials. JL
Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 10:50 pm
by amgdoc
Yeah, I'll run some trials. Anything in particular you have in mind?
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:51 am
by dfumento
I'd suggest getting the X60s which runs perfectly cool. There is hardly a difference in performance in most cases.
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:50 pm
by jl123
Edited:
dfumento,
I would say my X60s is *not perfectly cool, I think it can get quite warm actually.
There is a forum member on the X40 forum who seems pretty good- he really knows about undervolting etc- I think he's from Switzerland? JL
Re: I think undervolted/clocking might make the X60 cooler
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:34 pm
by foodle
jl123 wrote:I propose X60 users trying to undervolt/clock (the way many on the X40 boards do to save battery life) their machines as this might serve to make these hot running machines run cooler.
Underclocking should be reasonably safe (as long as you don't go overboard), but undervoltaging the processors could cause reliability issues. If you're going to undervoltage, make sure to underclock at the same time. Even if you do that, there still may be problems. The processors are designed for a specific voltage range, and the fabrication process itself may be tailored to that targeted Vdd range. If you undervoltage the processors, you could run into problems like cache/reg file cell retention failure, increased susceptibility to soft errors (don't take it on a plane!), etc.
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:40 pm
by jl123
Foodle,
Ok so I won't undervolt. But will try to underclock.
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:41 pm
by dfumento
jl123 wrote:dfumento,
I would say my X60s is *not perfectly cool, I think it can get quite warm actually.
Hmmm.....Strange because I run my unit all day long plugged in and running at max 1.66 MHz.
Are you doing anything special with yours?
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 11:12 pm
by Riddil
The WWAN models can get really stinking hot on right under your right wrist, because the WLAN and WWAN cards about 1mm on the other side of the plastic cover. Bad design of you ask me. But, with those cards there, if you're cranking a lot of data... especially over WWAN then it can get really [censored] hot.
*shrug*
Trying disabling the WAN cards when not in use. Other than that, not much else you can do.
Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 2:05 pm
by jl123
Riddle:
"The WWAN models can get really stinking hot on right under your right wrist, because the WLAN and WWAN cards about 1mm on the other side of the plastic cover. Bad design of you ask me. But, with those cards there, if you're cranking a lot of data... especially over WWAN then it can get really [censored] hot.
Trying disabling the WAN cards when not in use. Other than that, not much else you can do."
--SO turning the radio off does not disable the Wan cards?
JL
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:05 am
by archer6
Riddil wrote:The WWAN models can get really stinking hot on right under your right wrist, because the WLAN and WWAN cards about 1mm on the other side of the plastic cover. Bad design of you ask me.
I think the design engineers did a good job considering how small and thin this computer is. We had some X60 series in the office that got hot. Sent them back to Lenovo and the replacements have been just fine. I think they simply got a bad batch of cards from their vendor. Like all mass produced product they cannot all be perfect. What's important to me is that they just take care of it. Our experience with Lenovo service and warranty has been excellent. Far better than Sony, HP , or Dell. ThinkPad is far superior.