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I have now a small collection of recovery CD's.. some are Rescue & Recovery Startup Disc and some are Disc1 (a DVD with about 14%, but i have NOT been able to create the entire set..

Yes, I have. I have one CD labeled X60 Rescue & Recovery Startup Disk and six CDs labeled X60 Product Recovery #1 to #6.

Are you having problems? Never mind, I don't want to know.

I have succesfully created a Startup Disc (DVD) and Disk1 (DVD).
No problem at all.

I also was able tocreate them.

The startup is a CD, and the other one is a single DVD.

BTW, I wanted to create a second set, but the software is disabled after set one. Is this the case for everybody?

Only can create once. If you want some more, you must to reformat the hard disk again. *Grumble grumble* I haven't tried creating the R&R disks yet. Lazy to do so.

Yeah, IBM(Lenovo) sites says explicitely that because of licensing issues, you are only provided with the right to make only one copy.

Of course you can copy your copy LOL

my problem is, i think, that i am using a USB CD, to create the set..

took several tries to do the first disc and the second (i want a DVD not 6 CD's) fails..

i might try a different external CD writer..
FWIW, i am using a plextor PX716A in an external box..

i think things get "quirky" when not using ibm parts..

I was able to create the recovery CDs without any trouble: 1 startup disc + 6 other discs.

I used an LG DVD writer.

BillMorrow wrote:my problem is, i think, that i am using a USB CD, to create the set..

took several tries to do the first disc and the second (i want a DVD not 6 CD's) fails..

i might try a different external CD writer..
FWIW, i am using a plextor PX716A in an external box..

i think things get "quirky" when not using ibm parts..

Did you already use this drive in that configuration before? Maybe it is the drive. Maybe also the blank media. I someztimes really have stupid problems easily solved by changing brand of blank media.

I was also able to make the recovery DVD using a non-lenovo, USB DVD writer.

Is there a chance to 'burn' the recovery CC/DVD's to images? I would prefer to burn the discs on another PC in my network as I don't own USB burners.

Hi,
Just to let you know, i had created my R&R disks without any problems. Using external chap pa lang USB burner. 1 for $20 only. Also can burn with no problem. Picked up at the clearance store. 1 start up and 1 DVD. Complete set.

BillMorrow wrote:my problem is, i think, that i am using a USB CD

I'm worse off. I tried an LG "super multi" burner in an external case with the (verdammte) Prolific 1.x combo FW/USB2 chipset. I used a firewire cable. The 1709 detected the burner as a "DVD-RAM" and refused to burn *anything* to it.

I'll try USB when I have time.

-Frank

Try the USB cable.

I think that is the exact same USB multi burner I used and I had no issues. On the box it says: LG 16x External Super Multi DVD/CD Rewriter.

I did use regular CD-ROM discs (Memorex 700 MB).

Athough on the drive letter at run time is does show as DVD-RAM, the burner software recognized it with no problems.

I've made a set on almost all recent ThinkPads inluding the X60 and X60s consisting of a boot CD and a single DVD. I have even made a set with an external LG USB drive on a X41 and a lenovo box - I think it uses the sonic burning technology so check if RecordNow (or Multimedia.........whatever the default burning software has been renamed to in this iteration) works

surg wrote:Is there a chance to 'burn' the recovery CC/DVD's to images? I would prefer to burn the discs on another PC in my network as I don't own USB burners.

not that i have ever heard of..

NOW, i have changed everything about the external plextore 716A drive except the external box itself..
(on which i will try recording something, later)
and i have made a recording on the 'former' plextor in a desktop box and the same model plextor (i have three, two in the deskbox and one in the external box) and the replacement in the external box fails in the same way..

sooo, i called ibm/lenovo support and the fellow kindly agreed to send me a copy..

then i was sitting here thinking about this silliness and BAM while staring at my T60p i thought IDIOT! .. why not stick the X60 drive in the T60p and use ITS CDRW drive to make the recovery CD set..
so, i am now up to 15% on verifying the DVD part and i'll bet it goes all the way through and makes a successful copy..

i guess, like the support guy said, it can be flaky when not using ibm hardware..
next time i'll get the X6 base..

for you new guys, this is called a "workaround"..
something "we" have been doing for years and i have been doing since 1975 when i first got interested in my first computer kit..
(which, BTW, was a polymorphic systems "Poly 88")

IMO problem is most likely:

• blank media
  recorder
  external USB2 housing

I made a DVD set on my T42 using a Plextor PX-716UF USB drive and Taiyo Yuden media. It worked perfectly.

carbon_unit wrote:I made a DVD set on my T42 using a Plextor PX-716UF USB drive and Taiyo Yuden media. It worked perfectly.

Taiyo Yuden media are the best one will ever been able to find on this planet, period.

atlacatl wrote:Try the USB cable.

Thanks, everyone.

This is a leased machine, so I gave up. A(n IBM) backup did work over firewire to DVDs. The first disk looked as though it would have fit on a CD with room to spare. They could have told me, but then it wouldn't be Lenovo, right?

Actually, I'm impressed at how much better the Java-ridden Lenovo software suite is than what I remember from the early T41 era. It works; the CPU load is minimal; etc. If I didn't have to leave it on there, I think I wouldn't mind doing so (g).

I have basic questions, but I'll post those in the right place.

thibouille27 wrote: Taiyo Yuden media are the best one will ever been able to find on this planet, period.

That is why I use it. There is a difference.

Ok, done.

Bill,
your method works. Now i got 2 sets of R&R disks. You can make use of another ultrabay in another computer to do the recording. It works but it is a bit slower.

~:::Cheers:::~

thibouille27 wrote:IMO problem is most likely:

• blank media
  recorder
  external USB2 housing

media is verbatim (they started by making 5 inch floppy discs)..
recorder is plextor..
external housing is made by enermax..

the thing is just plain flaky..

then i got the ibm recovery CD set today..
the plextor won't load them correctly..

reverted to an old ibm USB CD..
slower than a glacier..
on disc 5 there was a CRC error message.. OK..?
no NOT ok, but that was the only choice..
then it continued even without all of disc 5 and of course crashed in the final phase..

after cleaning disc 5 (it was smudged) and having dinner i tried again and it finally worked..

this has been the most troublesome/difficult recovery i have ever done..!

i SUPPOSE i could have made the set i made on the T60p without the DVD and used the old/slow ibm USB CD to load it but i wanted only 2 CD's..
and strangely, the ibm recovery CD set has a "supplemental software disc" and the set created with the utility does not have this extra CD..