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I noticed that X60 models are now having all the features of X60s, i.e. bluetooth, fingerprint recognition, 60GB HDD, 512 etc. The only advantage of X60s is the LV chips. At the recent COMEX exhibition (computer exhibition in Singapore), I was told "Why buy X60s? X60 is better than X60s."

Is X60s going to be phased out?

I doubt it. The x60s is slimmer, has better battery life (0.5-1hr) because of the low voltage chip, runs slightly cooler and weighs a bit lighter (0.15lb). Plus only the x60s can use the slim battery which sits completely flush against the laptop.

The x60 is a fine machine, especially when it adopts the merom chip, but for people that value portibility and battery life over power and 64bit computing, the x60s will be here for a while. It's expected that a merom refresh with low voltage processors will take place in Q1 2007.

I kind of regret buying my x60 with the 8 cell battery though. It stick out from the back of the an otherwise beautiful machine like a sore thumb, adds about 1lb to an otherwise extremely lightweight, and I found myself plugged in most of the time.

yiplong wrote:I kind of regret buying my x60 with the 8 cell battery though. It stick out from the back of the an otherwise beautiful machine like a sore thumb, adds about 1lb to an otherwise extremely lightweight, and I found myself plugged in most of the time.

Well, heck, go spend $85 on a smaller battery... It'll shave a noticeable amount of weight off...

merlion wrote:Is X60s going to be phased out?

I certainly hope not! The X60s is at least 0.4 lbs lighter than the X60, and is currently the only Thinkpad that's less than 3 lbs. 0.4 lbs is about the difference between my X40 and my 240X, and it's very noticeable. I would never buy an X60 as long as the X60s is available. BTW, the grad school I went to in Cambridge MA sells only the X60s.

yiplong wrote:I kind of regret buying my x60 with the 8 cell battery though. It stick out from the back of the an otherwise beautiful machine like a sore thumb, adds about 1lb to an otherwise extremely lightweight, and I found myself plugged in most of the time.

Many people on this board seem to prefer "extended" batteries, but I have always preferred "standard" ones.

Thats why there is a choice. Ideally, you should have one of each. I use the 4 cell on my X41 for office days, but when I have court the 8 cell comes out. For flying or very long days, I'll even clip on the extended battery giving me a total of 12 cells and about 9 hours.

I prefer the 8-cell, not only because it doubles the life, but also because it provides a very convenient "handle" with which to securely hold the laptap in one hand.

As for the difference between the x60/s, here at IBM we have dozens of all preconfigued models of each... And the real items often do not measure up the same as lenovo's published stats which are often eroneous. Statements about the size and weights are plain wrong for many models in all series, an obvious fact when you have real machines in hand to carefully measure/weigh/run for yourself.

The sizes & weights and processor speed is imperceptively different between the X60 and x60s. Battery life is predicated less by the voltage and far more by the cells, its freshness, and how well you maintain your li-on.

The machines are so nearly identical that I would recommend buying the better deal, ie., the one that comes on sale - sometimes for 30% off or more.

IMHO

SkiBunny wrote:The sizes & weights and processor speed is imperceptively different between the X60 and x60s.

I am unusually picky about the weight of a laptop (see my signature) and thus may be more sensitive to slight weight differences than most other people. Also, what seems to be a minor difference will become a major one if you compare carrying the X60 for 8 hours vs. carrying the X60s for 8 hours. To me, every tenth of a pound counts.

hmm... i'm a Proud User of X60s
Long operating hours, lightweight, outstanding designs, bearable heat on the right palmrest,... whatever good thing...

beside hugging my gf, sleep with my X60s everynight.!!

Anyone have suggestions on how to best "maintain" the battery for longest possible life? I posted something on this earlier -- but thought I'd also ask the folks in this thread (see also: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... aintenance)

I normally use it all day plugged in to my docking station (e.g. Ultrabase) -- but I know that's not good for the battery. I think I also read you can use the Thinkpad plugged in WITHOUT any battery in it -- does that work when in the Ultrabase as well?

Here some info from Apple. I'm assuming that it should also apply to our notebooks.

http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html

from my experience, it does not matter how light your laptop is...

no matter how light they get.. . you will eventually fell heaviness of your laptop .. lol