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windows xp professional x64

#1 Post by tian » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:27 pm

hi there!

i am expecting a new x60 in a couple of weeks time (core 2 - 1.86GHz, 2gb ram). this will be the first non-dell laptop that my family has purchased :) (between my mum, dad and myself we probably used every latitude/precision that dell has to offer). time came for to retire my beloved x300 and the replacement, d420 (a fine machine, though seemed a little slow) just didnt seem suitable for me.

i will be using my x60 for mostly: software developement (java + intellij, vs2005), photoshop and office (word and visio).

my questions are:
1. has anyone tried windows professional x64 on their x60?
2. if so, did you have any problems finding drivers?
3. do you notice any real improvements?

(since i'm a MSc student, i am entitled to a copy of windows xp pro, x64 and vista business - the latter i wont be using anytime soon :wink:)

thanks!
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#2 Post by Chrispy » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:42 pm

Stick with XP Pro 32bit. Lenovo basically offers no drivers for 64-bit windows XP so you are kind of screwed after the install. I installed it on a T60 I had for a bit and hit a brick wall on driver support. It is not worth the headache.
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#3 Post by tian » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:13 pm

thanks for the heads up :)

i guess i will be sticking to good ol' 32bit for now then.

x240, 8gb, FHD intel 4400, SD7SB3Q128G1001, intel 7260, W7x84
w540, 32gb, 3k nvidia k2100m, CT512M550SSD, intel 7260, Xubuntu x64
w530, 32gb, FHD nvidia k2000m, CT480M500SSD mSATA + SSD, intel 6300, W8.1x64
x60, 2gb, 100gb 7k100, ibm agbn, xp pro

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#4 Post by tomh009 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:16 pm

If you want to do 64-bit, you'll likely need to do it with Vista. Most companies aren't going to make the effort to release 64-bit drivers or applications for Windows XP.
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#5 Post by tian » Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:16 am

i decided against switching to vista as:

1. never use MS product until it's in it's third year or iteration :D (if i had my way i'd still be using windows 2000)
2. i dont think i would benifit from vista's improvements (i will be needing every MB of my 2GB ram for vs2005+visio+vmware).

and perhaps most importantly:
3. not sure that vista would be as usable on a 12" 1024x786 as windows xp is (pure conjecture on this one, but a sensible one never the less)

thanks,
tian

x240, 8gb, FHD intel 4400, SD7SB3Q128G1001, intel 7260, W7x84
w540, 32gb, 3k nvidia k2100m, CT512M550SSD, intel 7260, Xubuntu x64
w530, 32gb, FHD nvidia k2000m, CT480M500SSD mSATA + SSD, intel 6300, W8.1x64
x60, 2gb, 100gb 7k100, ibm agbn, xp pro

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#6 Post by tomh009 » Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:23 am

No argument with your first point -- that's purely personal preference, and we each make our own choices.

With regards to memory and screen usage, in a similar configuration it's really only the SuperFetch caching that uses significantly more memory. It's generally a good use of memory IMHO but you can also disable it using a registry setting.

The screen real estate usage is really not much different with Vista when working with applications (leaving aside control panel applets etc.); you'll see a bigger difference with Office 2007.
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#7 Post by tian » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:02 pm

office 2007 is great, though for me, i found it just too fustrating after using the previous interface for the last >10 years (whoa... i still remember writing stuff using word 5.0). though admitantly i would have made the effort to switch if it wasnt so slow on my x300.

i guess i'm finally turning into my grandad when i type this: i just want to get things done these days, without having to spend xx minutes to find out how to do something... (this applies not only to office)

i just have a funny feeling that before long, i will be making comments like: "...back in my days, windows couldnt overlap, let alone have all this new fangled 3d/transparency glassy effect thing; and filenames could only have 8 letters with 3 letter extension and couldnt contain spaces."

(you will appreciate how ironic this is when i tell you that i'm actually a msc software engineering student :oops: )

...i'll stop ranting now

x240, 8gb, FHD intel 4400, SD7SB3Q128G1001, intel 7260, W7x84
w540, 32gb, 3k nvidia k2100m, CT512M550SSD, intel 7260, Xubuntu x64
w530, 32gb, FHD nvidia k2000m, CT480M500SSD mSATA + SSD, intel 6300, W8.1x64
x60, 2gb, 100gb 7k100, ibm agbn, xp pro

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#8 Post by tomh009 » Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:38 pm

tian wrote:office 2007 is great, though for me, i found it just too fustrating after using the previous interface for the last >10 years (whoa... i still remember writing stuff using word 5.0).
Word 5? I think I started with Word 4 -- it felt much more natural that WordPerfect back then. :shock: But Word for Windows 1.0 was just stunning after that, though it was painful to run with Windows 2.x and Windows/386. But with Windows 3.0 life was good.

Oh, and, the hardcover manuals that Microsoft shipped with WfW 1.0 were some of the best software documentation I have ever seen, before or after.
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