X60T with Core 2 Duo

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X60T with Core 2 Duo

#1 Post by cheeebs » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:06 am

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/cont ... 5:00000134:

what's yall's opinion of this one? X60T with Core 2 Duo L7400 LV 1.5GHz. i haven't read any comparisons of this vs. the Core Duo in this hardware/usage context... has anyone any info?

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#2 Post by smvp6459 » Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:21 am

I'd say it's worth $75 for 64-bit.

On the X60s I would definitely pay $25 for the upgrade.

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#3 Post by lovebeta » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:14 am

smvp6459 wrote:I'd say it's worth $75 for 64-bit.

On the X60s I would definitely pay $25 for the upgrade.
One thing to note about X60s: it seems that you cannot get UL screen, bluetooth and L7400 altogether in the same machine as of now.

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#4 Post by sxr71 » Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:35 pm

Last week was the best time to buy for those wanting UL display and BT. The price went up by $250 over last week.

Anyway, they finally came out with the C2D processor but they are definitely charging for it, and no UL screen makes me glad to have bitten on the deal.

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#5 Post by cheeebs » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:30 am

this has become a busy topic over here:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/forum/foru ... p?TID=2443

apparently this is another strange lenovo.com mistake and there may indeed not be a C2D in X60T's yet.

methinks they need a proofreader for their web sales.
T60P 2613 UXGA, X41T...

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#6 Post by cheeebs » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:34 am

today the C2D is gone, but a new option is this:
12.1" MultiView + MultiTouch TN XGA TFT and Intel® Core™ Duo L2400 LV (1.67GHz, 2MB L2, 667MHz FSB) [add $24.00] [New]

the only difference for $24 is "TN". anyone know what this is???
T60P 2613 UXGA, X41T...

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#7 Post by fongj » Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:36 pm

cheeebs wrote:today the C2D is gone, but a new option is this:
12.1" MultiView + MultiTouch TN XGA TFT and Intel® Core™ Duo L2400 LV (1.67GHz, 2MB L2, 667MHz FSB) [add $24.00] [New]

the only difference for $24 is "TN". anyone know what this is???
There's some info here: http://www.gottabemobile.com/forum/foru ... p?TID=2463

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#8 Post by milstein » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:09 pm

The "WVA" panel is basically equivalant to the 15" Flexview IPS screen on your laptop. (btw, looking to sell?)

There are a few panel types.

IPS
MVA
PVA
TN

Then their derivatives.

S-IPS, AW-TS-IPS, AFFS
P-MVA
S-PVA
and so on.

The x60tablet screen was AFFS, a derivative of IPS

TN is the ugliest, cheapest and crappiest out of all of them. another step backward for lenovo. may not be their failt (boe-hydis = sony??) but oh well.
Oh... why they want to introduce this quality of screen into this top-end laptop series... that just doesn't make sense...

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#9 Post by dr_st » Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:33 am

FWIW, the current Tabook.PDF still states super wide viewing angle FFS for all X60 Tablet models.

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#10 Post by milstein » Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:49 pm

cheeebs wrote:today the C2D is gone, but a new option is this:
12.1" MultiView + MultiTouch TN XGA TFT and Intel® Core™ Duo L2400 LV (1.67GHz, 2MB L2, 667MHz FSB) [add $24.00] [New]

the only difference for $24 is "TN". anyone know what this is???
They have the C2D back again

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#11 Post by Drakkon » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:30 pm

I splurged (well there was a good 10% off deal)...I went for the C2D LV 7400 with multiview+multitouch:
SBB 12.1"MV+MTWVAXGA TFT+L7400

And it says it shipped today :D
So we shall see how well this 7400 works....I still have a T60 7200 "in process" for a month now so hopefull that'll be here soon and i can see them in action against each other

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X60 C2D vs X60 CD

#12 Post by milstein » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:14 pm

I doubt if I will choose the 64-bit Vista... as I don't want to risk the problems of lack of 64-bit drivers, and the backward incompatibility of 16-bit applications

oh... but if I am NOT going to install the Vista 64-bit version, it seems that the 64-bit capability of 1.5GHz C2D will not be utilized at all, and it will be slower than the 1.67GHz CD...
Am I correct on this?

Then should I go for the 1.67GHz Core Duo instead?

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Re: X60 C2D vs X60 CD

#13 Post by new2tablet » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:22 pm

milstein wrote:I doubt if I will choose the 64-bit Vista... as I don't want to risk the problems of lack of 64-bit drivers, and the backward incompatibility of 16-bit applications

oh... but if I am NOT going to install the Vista 64-bit version, it seems that the 64-bit capability of 1.5GHz C2D will not be utilized at all, and it will be slower than the 1.67GHz CD...
Am I correct on this?

Then should I go for the 1.67GHz Core Duo instead?
That's a great question and one I cannot figure out as well. Can you run 64-bit applications on a 32-bit operating system, or does it only work vise-versa?
new2tablet

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Re: X60 C2D vs X60 CD

#14 Post by dr_st » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:20 am

new2tablet wrote:Can you run 64-bit applications on a 32-bit operating system
No.

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#15 Post by Drakkon » Thu May 03, 2007 3:39 pm

I got my x60 tablet with my LV7400 and i must say the thing is great. I'm running vista business and the smoothness of operation is pretty impressive. Loadtimes are comprable to the T7200 for major applications (Photoshop, Word, Outlook, etc). The only thing its not loading as fast is Vista itself - i assume that might be because of the tablet functionality? not sure but im thinking another gig of ram or something might help that along ;)
Battery life also leaves a bit to be desired. I only have the smallest battery and it seems like when im drawing the battery will only last maybe 2 hours.
dont play any games or watch movies on it so cant tell ya how it does there.

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