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Verizon service works with built in wwan antenna?

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:01 pm
by jzuetta
Hi all,
I currently own a T42P which I've been using for the last 3 yrs and It was time for an upgrade :D
I choose a ThinkPad X60 1709CTO which I had the privilege to see and test for a couple of minutes and immediately I fell in love.
I have one of this broadband verizon cards and I was wondering if I can get rid of this one and use my account with the one comes built-in.
A friend of mine which owns one, told me it was kinda of set up for cingular and get it to work under verizon its was a pain.
I've been searching for an answer but I couldn't find it :(

Thanks in advance for your help...

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:16 pm
by EOMtp
You have the option of a built-in Verizon card or Cingular card. If you select the X60 with the built-in Verizon card, then you can log into your Verizon account, change the ESN from the card you have now to the ESN of the built-in card, and that's all there is to it ...

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:24 pm
by jzuetta
EOMtp wrote:You have the option of a built-in Verizon card or Cingular card. If you select the X60 with the built-in Verizon card, then you can log into your Verizon account, change the ESN from the card you have now to the ESN of the built-in card, and that's all there is to it ...
I ordered by phone last friday and never asked me that question :(
Dumb question: Should I tell them before it ships or essentially its the same card and you change it by soft?

Thanks!

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:11 pm
by EOMtp
The cards are different hardware. You can activate only a Verizon card on Verizon, so make certain they ship you the Verizon card if that is what you need.

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:45 am
by jzuetta
Update

Called Lenovo, they told me the X series only comes with Verizon Service available built-in card, the only one comes with both is the T series.

True? They changed something down the road?

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:52 am
by Xavier
Basically, they lied.

For instance, Verizon uses EVDO technology, which is not available in Europe (we use HSDPA technology here, which is the technology Cingular uses). They can't possibly ship 3G laptops with EVDO in Europe, and I've seen several X60 with built-in HSDPA (the mini PCIe card is a Sierra Wireless MC8755). This card has a part number, thus it can be ordered in a CTO configuration or later as a part.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:43 am
by bontistic
Could be... if you check the current tabook, you will only see Verizon models and no Cingular for X60/X60s but you will see both on T60 models.

However, if you check this from the Lenovo site for X60:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... R-62906#14

It shows 4 parts for WWAN, 2 1xEVDO and 1 UMTS and 1 HSDPA card which is exactly the same for T60:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... R-66975#21

Just so you know, since the X60 comes with a Verizon card, this MAY/COULD/MIGHT mean that it will not ship with a SIM card slot at the bottom.

This will be a different topic but for now at least you know that Verizon will work with you machine as per your call with Lenovo.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:03 am
by jzuetta
I called them up again and they have both services available on the ThinkPad X60 1709CTO (ThinkPad X60 with Mobile Broadband).
Its basically the same computer but with a faster processor (Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7200 (2.0GHz, 4MB L2, 667MHz FSB)).


Integrated Wireless WAN:
Verizon Sierra CDMA2000
Verizon Wireless Data Service: Lenovo customers will be contacted after purchase to activate Verizon service. Requires separate service contract with Verizon; monthly service charges and airtime charges will apply. Roaming charges may also apply. Verizon, not Lenovo, is solely responsible for the Verizon Wireless service. Service not available in all areas, actual throughput speeds may vary.

Cingular BroadbandConnect: Coverage not available in all areas. Cingular BroadbandConnect available in select metropolitan markets. Eligible Cingular Data Connect rate plan and service agreement required. Special credit and tenure restrictions and additional charges may apply to international roaming. A network connection, third-party software, additional hardware, and subscription to a third-party service may be required for certain solutions/applications. Additional restrictions apply. Cingular service is subject to the applicable Cingular service agreement/terms, the corresponding rate plan brochure and coverage maps. Offer subject to change.

Check: http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/cont ... :00000140: