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[Dear Moderator: Thank you for moving my post from T6x. Posting past midnight is like driving drunk...]

I have the machine, and I took pictures unpacking it. I've posted them on my website:

http://www.luiswatkins.com/x61/x61tabletmain.htm

It is very nice, relatively light, and Vista tablet features work pretty well out of the box, even with my scrawl. Fingerprint training went well, too.

There's been so little hiccups. Zone alarm failed to install properly and caused a blue screen of death. (Okay, don't install the XP version when there is a clearly labeled Vista version, duh!) I'm running Rescue and Recovery. (It worked very nicely. All is happy again.)

Also, don't change to POST option to diagnose. It is very hard to go back to the quick post.

More later on the web site.

I hope you've realised that it was stupid to post the screenshot with Vista cd-key?!

Note from Moderator: Find another way to describe this other than stupid.

Haha, this is really stupid. Sorry to say. You should also scramble the products sn in a better way. They are a simple guess

I miss pictures which better show the thickness when in tablet mode.

Thank you anyway for your efforts!

IBMGuy

Note from Moderator: Find another way to describe this other than stupid. And add your location in your profile.

Great pictures. Thank you for sharing!

How's that multiview screen by the way? What resolution is it?

wow..

1) like others have said, take down the pic with your cd-key!!

2) maybe resize them to be web friendly?

My apologize for the rude language. I seem to have forgotten the political correctness, the US is suffering from. Again my apologizes. I had no intention whatsoever to discriminate neither by hair and skin color, sex, handicaps, odour, physical, emotional, psychological disbalance and/or but not limited by Pepsi or Cola lovers. This also includes any other possible distinction possible or imaginable.

Please consider the word 'stupid' to be meant as 'unfortunate'.

I promise to ensure from my side that this forum stays a clean place.

IBMGuy

Thank you for the responses.

I thought I blurred everything that need blurring. It was rather unfortunate to leave the door open for thieves. I've padlocked it; hopefully the cat didn't get out. Thanks for the heads up. Too excited to notice that one.

I will be taking more pictures, soon. I'll include a thin picture of the laptop. Yes, it's nice and thin, esp. compared to the DELL. It is 2/3rds the size of the DELL, but half it's weight. And I also got the 4-cell battery. Weighings to follow, too. All on a new page, btw, so you don't have to search for updates.

The Multiview/Multitouch is 1024x768. Tablet pen works great, the finger touch doesn't. I'm hoping something is not configured correctly. I try harder today. As for the viewing area, res, and clarity, brightness... wait for it... spectacular!. Haven't tried it outside, yet. I'll take pictures of that, good ones.

I understand about picture size and I accept the criticism. These pictures, except for one or two, were resized downward. I intentionally want them big, esp. the machine, so you can see detail. Detail on the boxes, too, as I wondered what I would see when I was waiting, waiting, waiting, ..... I did warn at the top of the page so you can back out. Note, the site is quick-and-dirty. Do you want a scoop? Or do you want the end-of-the-month journal magazine?

Ask questions, ask for pictures. I'll do my best as I explore the system. i've yet to light-up the X6 or activate the Rev A Verizon card.

Thank you for the responses.

I thought I blurred everything that need blurring. It was rather unfortunate to leave the door open for thieves. I've dead bolted it; hopefully the cat didn't get out. Thanks for the heads up. Too excited to notice that one.

I will be taking more pictures, soon. I'll include a thin picture of the laptop. Yes, it's nice and thin, esp. compared to the DELL. It is 2/3rds the size of the DELL, but half it's weight. And I also got the 4-cell battery. Weighings to follow, too. All on a new page, btw, so you don't have to search for updates.

The Multiview/Multitouch is 1024x768. Tablet pen works great, the finger touch doesn't. I'm hoping something is not configured correctly. I try harder today. As for the viewing area, res, and clarity, brightness... wait for it... spectacular!. Haven't tried it outside, yet. I'll take pictures of that, good ones.

I understand about picture size and I accept the criticism. These pictures, except for one or two, were resized downward. I intentionally want them big, esp. the machine, so you can see detail. Detail on the boxes, too, as I wondered what I would see when I was waiting, waiting, waiting, ..... I did warn at the top of the page so you can back out. Note, the site is quick-and-dirty. Do you want a scoop? Or do you want the end-of-the-month journal magazine?

Ask questions, ask for pictures. I'll do my best as I explore the system. i've yet to light-up the X6 or activate the Rev A Verizon card.

Good to see your X61. However in your excitement you also forgot to post it in X6x forum instead of posting here in T6x.

Drat!! I worked 9PM to 3AM on it web page. Too tired to be posting, I guess.

MODERATOR! Can you move this to the X6x group? Or do I need to repost?

SFWrtr,

thanks for posting the pics. I'm drooling now too. I ordered mine yesterday after worrying about the sxga+ superview issue too much. I finally got the call center people to confirm that they were wrong in their earlier discussions with me about that screen not being available, and that it will have it when it arrives.

He told me it would be about 2-3 weeks delivery time, but the order says 7 weeks (also told me that it's not correct).

Can't wait to get it and load it up with cool software and get it up and running. Your shots are great, some are too large for me to see on my current 12" laptop screen!

thanks.

How did you get them to assemble your machine using the "IBM Thinkpad" logo instead of the new, "Thinkpad X-series" logo?

I'd like to know so that I can get mine with the IBM logo when I order.

Thanks.

Great pictures, clear and sharp! - I believe there is now somebody really happy and will hopefully have much productive fun with his new toy.

BTW, I hope the picture series will go on, so we get a long-time story about the X61Tablet.

Very, very nice-it looks great! I honestly wish I had a legitimate need for a tablet, because I would probably buy one in a second!

Just beautiful, I can't wait to get mine now (although waiting to pick it up for back to school)

Antioch wrote:I'd like to know so that I can get mine with the IBM logo when I order.Thanks.

Go to the www.lenovoblogs.com. There is an article by Matt about branding. If you buy from the web or do CTO (call to order), you will get the IBM logo. If you are a medium to large business or a corporate account, you will get the Lenovo logo, best I can understand from the blog.

I like my IBM logo... did I say that before?

6365-CTO "Configure To Order"

That's what my Lenovo receipt says.

So what logo do the top seller models, etc have? Any pics?

nice I just got mine and installed the 4gb of ram. I am a little underwhelmed by the unit, the rotation feature is really slow and it seems quicker to just use the button. Also it seems a tad sluggish but the vista interface is pretty interesting. I just installed office and I am looking forward to using the touch/pen features with office. Right now with regards to speed and useablity not a whole lot has changed between my X41t and the X61T but hopefully some of the newer features will expose themselves as the machine is used more often.

SFWrtr, can you please comment on the operating noise of the notebook? I'm wondering how audible both the harddisk and the cooling fans are. I believe your model has WWAN so it should have a "second fan" installed underneath the palmrest (second fan is what the lenovo hardware manual calls the palrest fan that is installed when you have a WWAN card in your machine).

Anyways, I'm primarily interested in the noise from the heatsync-fan when you're idling in Windows. As it stands my T60 is a roaring beast and I'd like to make sure that when I switch to an X61 is it as quiet as my T42 used to be.

You can download the tpfancontrol program to manually set the heatsync-fan to be off for a few moment in order to hear the harddisk and second fan noises only (don't worry it won't hurt your processor for the fan to be off for a short while if you're just idling).

I've noticed that my self-installed 7200RPM HD on my T42 is much quieter than the factory-installed 7200RPM HD on my T60. I believe the factory-installed disks are Hitachi travelstars, while the disk I installed was a Fujitsu (I don't have it on hand at the moment).

I was also wondering if you could comment on the screen's resolution. I noticed that you have an external 1600x1200 LCD and are going to get a 1920x1200 LCD soon. I too enjoy high resolution screens and have a 1400x1050 display on my 14" T60. However, being a man who enjoys high resolution, can you comment on the 1024x768 resolution of the X61? My largest fear is that I will purchase the machine and be completely unsatisfied with 1024x768.

Thank you for your response, I appreciate it. I will help me when making my upcoming X61s purchase.

Some good questions, thanks!

Antioch wrote:SFWrtr, can you please comment on the operating noise of the notebook?

So far, very quiet. Compared to my Dell, it whispers.

Antioch wrote:I'm wondering how audible both the harddisk and the cooling fans are.

The hard disk has that familiar Travelstar tick, but compared to the Fujitsu 100GB in my Dell, which I also consider quiet, this is quieter.

X60 tablet wrote:Ticka-ticka-tick.

As for the fan, at low speed you can hear it blowing, but it doesn't have the ultrasonic edge or whiring that my Dell has. (I have them side by side as I write this.) Running a graphics test (Winamp visualizations, CPUs at 60%) revs up the fan. In this mode it's about equally loud with the Dell. Since I've never had my own Thinkpad before, I cannot say how this compares beyond that. On battery power, not number crunching, it is subjectively rather quiet.

Antioch wrote:I believe your model has WWAN so it should have a "second fan" installed underneath the palmrest (second fan is what the lenovo hardware manual calls the palrest fan that is installed when you have a WWAN card in your machine).

I'll be activating the MC8725 today. Can't give you info on that, yet.

Antioch wrote: Anyways, I'm primarily interested in the noise from the heatsync-fan when you're idling in Windows. As it stands my T60 is a roaring beast and I'd like to make sure that when I switch to an X61 is it as quiet as my T42 used to be.

I am pretty confident is saying it doesn't roar. You can hear it blow, though. Anybody to your left will hear it more.

Antioch wrote:You can download the tpfancontrol program to manually set the heatsync-fan to be off for a few moment in order to hear the harddisk and second fan noises only<snip>

I can hear both distinctly. I am not comfortable about using that program, yet.

Antioch wrote: I was also wondering if you could comment on the screen's resolution <snip> can you comment on the 1024x768 resolution of the X61? My largest fear is that I will purchase the machine and be completely unsatisfied with 1024x768.

1024x768 is not as constricting as you might think. It is very readable. Coming from at 1920x1200 15.4 inch notebook, it is nice to be able to read the type on a page, esp. in when dealing with IE and MS help pages that don't allow you to enlarge the typeface to your favorite size. I do miss the screen real estate, though. And that's why I am getting the big monitor for my desk where I use this as a desktop replacement. The 1024x768 is very adequate for tasks that are portable and okay for other tasks. It will require you to think about placement, esp. the task bar or tool bars. You'll probably hide them. I don't regret it. However, a neat (preferably virtually empty) desktop is a must.

Antioch wrote:Thank you for your response<snip>

You are welcome. (I am a writer... I like to write.)

Just received mine today too. Multiview screen isn't much different outside.

The pen seems to be scratching my screen -- you experiencing the same thing? Pretty frustrating.

I can read my laptop screen just fine outside. I've posted pictures of readability at the extreme, and it's still good.

No, my pen is not scratching the screen. Do you have a red nib attached? If you do, take a scratch free cloth and follow the dust first on one side and wipe second with the other side to clean the screen and see if the scratches go away. (If there is no red nib, stop and immediately install one.)

Hope this helps.

Just wondering if your planning on doing a clean install of Vista to get rid of all the craplets.
And if so, let me know how the process was.

Thanks

Re: Craplets
There is not a lot of stuff I would consider craplets. I mean, there is Norton, which I'll use until I get the corporate virus checker in. There's preinstalls of Microsoft Office, SQL Server 2005, PC-Doctor 5, and a few games. I'll just uninstall what I don't like. The real crap is the Windows Live stuff. I got rid of that instantly. (I just found the Windows Live Toolbar, and I'm removing that as we speak.) I then downloaded Thunderbird and Mozilla. All the Lenovo applets are useful; it all works pretty good together.

Another topic I had heard about what the SideBar, that it was an awful drag on the system. Not so! With it on, my system is running on battery without the fan, with the CPUs at 2-4% utilization. Okay, I like blinky lights.

So are you saying Lenovo got rid of all the google crap etc?

Would you think about using rescue and recovery and just do a basic custom install?

SFWrtr:

I have essentially the same Dell notebook from which you are converting to the tablet, so I am particularly interested in your thoughts as to how the screen compares to the X61t screen.

I have been debating since the X61 debuted whether to get the high or low res screen. I am so used to the UXGA on my Dell and being able to fit so much stuff on the screen that I'm wary about getting the 1024x768 resolution on the tablet.

I would love to see some pictures on your site comparing the screen of your Dell to the X61, both in terms of brightness/viewability and resolution. If the your X61 screen looks as good as you make it sound so far, that would be awesome. I understand your thoughts about actually being able to see something on the screen of the tablet instead of it being tiny in UXGA. Thanks!

Hey SFWrtf:

just got my x61t.... and agree.. i was thinking about doing a clean instal but there doesnt seem to be a lot of crap on my comp.

1 question though.. i use the nipple to scroll my mouse and it seems really slow. I have my pointer speed on max and the stupid thing still just crawls along... same for you?

and yeah mine booted in 1 min 15 secon from close to full steam

ticeton wrote:Just received mine today too. Multiview screen isn't much different outside.

The pen seems to be scratching my screen -- you experiencing the same thing? Pretty frustrating.

yeh i thought the screen felt a little more coarse than the x60t as well. ive got some felt tips ordered for my pen which should work nicely. you can order them direct from wacom if you want.