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I recently purchased an X61 Tablet with the Multitouch screen option. It came preloaded with Vista and I wanted XP (couldn't find any with XP in stock, sigh...). I loaded XP SP2 Tablet Edition 2005, then all of the drivers from the Lenovo web site. There is one thing that doesn't work right, the interaction between the pen digitizer and touchscreen functions.

When I use the pen, the mouse cursor tracks the pen while hovering. As soon as I touch the screen, the cursor "vibrates" between two positions, somewhat close together. The single tap is also registered as a double click.

If I go to the touchscreen control panel, and I disable the touchscreen, then the problem gets *worse*. The cursor then vibrates between the pen location and some random fixed location anywhere on the screen.

If I go to the device manager and disable the touchscreen driver in the hardware profile, then the pen works great! Of course, the touchscreen is useless then.

It seemed clear to me that what was happening is that the touchscreen was registering the digitizer pen at the same time. I concluded that what should happen is when the digitizer pen is hovering or near the screen, the touchscreen should be suppressed. Without that, the cursor hovers between the digitizer location and the touchscreen location (since the calibrations are not perfectly aligned) plus it double registers every tap.

And sure enough, I found this video that shows this is the way it *should* work:

http://www.gottabemobile.com/LenovoThin ... abase.aspx

Very clearly, at 9:15 into the video, it shows how the pen suppresses the touchscreen when in range. That is the way it should work.

I have removed and reinstalled the drivers from the Lenovo web site multiple times. They come as one package, so there is no choice on which to install first or not.

Please help! How can I fix this? The computer works great except for this last one thing!

Mike C.
mikec@ciholas.com

I happen to be suffering from the same symptoms right now with an X60 Tablet, but I only have the pen drivers (Wacom Penabled Extended drivers, 5.03) installed - I'd think the touchscreen shouldn't work at all without drivers installed? Hope that narrows things down a bit, at least.

[edit] This is just a transient state for me, while reinstalling all the drivers.

...Can't comment really, my x61t works fine whether it be touch or pen. Good luck

mgags7 wrote:...Can't comment really, my x61t works fine whether it be touch or pen. Good luck

XP or Vista?

Can you look up the driver versions being used for the trackpoint driver, the digitzer driver, and the touchscreen driver?

Thanks.

Mike C.
mikec@ciholas.com

It wouldn't be worth it, I'm on Vista x64, my drivers would be completely different.

mgags7 wrote:It wouldn't be worth it, I'm on Vista x64, my drivers would be completely different.

Alas, doesn't help an XP installer like myself...

Hello mciholas:

I have the EXACT same problem you are having. I have been searching for information on this problem, and your post is the first time I have seen anyone else with the same problem. (see original post in this thread)

In addition to what you have stated, I notice that when I use a regular mouse in a word document, a little button shows up close to the text that I am typing. The button is to show and hide the writing pad input window that is used with the pen. The screen should know that I am using a mouse, and not show the button for the writing/character pad.

I have not come up with any solution to the problem yet. If any has any shred of info, please post. I did a clean install of XP 2005 Tablet after finding that VISTA was Blue screening and crashing so much I could not stand it. Also, too many programs would not work right in VISTA.

The cursor “vibrating” or Jumping back and forth when using the pen is the only problem I have with my XP installation. I installed a new hard drive for the install, reserving the VISTA drive for testing and configuration in VISTA, so I put the old drive in and validated that the pen, touch screen and mouse work flawlessly in vista. Therefore, this is clearly a software issue and not a hardware issue.

I will post here if I can find anything. Until then, at least the x61 tablet works as a laptop.

Well, add me to the list also. I'm having this exact same problem on my multitouch X60 after a fresh install of XP (it came with Vista on it). I switched from vista to get away from some bugs that were irritating me, but unless this touch-screen issue can be fixed, I may just have to deal with Vista's quirks.
It doesn't seem like too big of an issue (technically speaking) -- it seems like all that's happening is the touch screen isn't being turned off when the pen is in range. If anyone makes any progress, please post here.

Warner

I thought this would be just a transient problem, but I'm still suffering from this. (And I was wrong about it not having the drivers, it installed something by default for it.)

I would think it might be a problem with the 5.03-3 RC extended penabled drivers? Now trying the 4.xx drivers from the Wacom Europe site. For some reason, that site doesn't list XP Tablet Edition as a supported OS for 5.03-3 RC.

I FIXED IT!!! Here's how: Uninstall your old drivers, and reboot. Download the VISTA driver found here: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-67220 and install it. It'll ask you a couple times if you really want to install a driver, because it's not digitally signed -- click "continue" both times. After it tells you it's done, reboot, and it should work fine! I was a bit leary of installing Vista drivers on XP Tablet 2005, but it's working great for me! Hope this helps others,
Warner

wermerskoch: YES - YOU FIXED IT! Thanks for this post. I should have thought to try this fix. I installed the vista driver and it works right now.

I believe this is the only post anywhere that addresses this problem, and here it is solved. YEY.

Well, that fixed the double-click problems, though I'm still somewhat-broken on the "extended" drivers (to enable pressure sensitivity, etc. in programs like GIMP, which really need those features).

If I try to re-install one of those, either nothing happens or it breaks calibration (like before)! IIRC, 4.97-6 was 'nothing happened' and 5.03-3 rc broke calibration.

Any ideas?

[big edit: jumbled up the details]

to those that installed XP over a Vista preload: there are a number of hotfixes in the XP preload that address pen/touch issues. See the two below as they will most likely cure your problems:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920295/en-us:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/895953/en-us

Lenovo has posted all of the X61T (And T61/X61/R61) QFE's here:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-68475