Thinkpads Forum

For my category of people or company, I can only say that it's not the thinkvantages software that are the problem, but the software security policy of my company is almost compatible with NOTHING ...

So every software has to be validated ! The computer is superslow !

I think that's one of the reason big companys just get rid of third party softwares ..

I think they are not ALL usefull but some of them are great ! Access connection, tablet menu, OSD, easy eject, presentation director ...

mcmanaman wrote:Actually there are two types of people who use computers:

- People who have little knowledge in computers, usually use computers for gaming, surfing the internet, emailing, listening to music, watching videos. This kind of people will appreciate the ThinkVantage Software.

- But for people like us (Software Engineers), we are computer professionals we use computers for building applications that make people's life easier. So we usually spend hours and hours on computers to get the job done, any thing that gets in the way, we usually get rid of it. And ThinkVantage was slowing the computer so I removed it.

According to your original post, you recommended EVERYONE to remove ThinkVantage software. Now you're talking about 2 types of people. So can I conclude that you're assuming every Thinkpad user is software engineers? If not, how many percents of Thinkpad users do you think are software engineers?

ajkula66 wrote:I don't care much for Windows in general, and if I had to pick a favourite OS from MS, it would be W2K.

Here's to Win2K, the last really great MS OS

I want to settle this issue once and for all. For those people who thought that they were categorized as "Little Knowledged People". I'm sorry but you didn't understand me well (My english might be somehow weak due to the fact that I'm living in the middle east). I meant that there are two kind of people who use the computer:

- Consumers, who use programs installed on computer for fullfiling their goals, whatever this goal is!!

- Producers, who create softwares for consumers and from this I'll restate my problem which caused all this long discussion:

As a producer I needed Visual Studio 2008 and SQL SERVER 2005 to be fully installed on my computer and when ThinkVantage blocked my installation of these softwares, I had to remove it inorder to get my job done. And from this I concluded that ThinkVantage software is only junk. That's my opinion, maybe other people have another opinion and I don't really care.

mcmanaman wrote:- Consumers, who use programs installed on computer for fullfiling their goals, whatever this goal is!!

- Producers, who create softwares for consumers and from this I'll restate my problem which caused all this long discussion:

I think your stereotype doesn't play out in reality. It may be roughly correct, but I know plenty of "producers" who don't know anything about running and administering a computer much beyond the specific production task that they engage in. They don't care how the computer runs or why it does what it does and they don't want to know. That's why there are IT folks around.

Then I know "consumers" who are better at managing a computer, a server, and a network than some "IT professionals," for whom that is their job. Some people are just interested in that kind of stuff and are tinkerers who like to figure out how things work.

I think the basic question is whether a particular program works for you: whether it's a Thinkvantage program, a Microsoft component in Windows, or any third party software.

There are some really useful thinkvantage programs: for the tablet, the tablet shortcut menu is extremely useful; the power manager is good at controlling battery charging (try telling Windows to not charge your battery when it is below 80% and stop when it hits 96%); try feeding your fingerprint from the POST login to Windows without the Finger Print software. If you don't need any of these functions, they're not helpful, but they are helpful to some of us who use them regularly.

Then you have some programs that work for some people and not others. I've had bad luck with Access Connections, so I uninstall it. However, it has some great functionality that I wish I had access to through Windows' network client.

mcmanaman wrote: As a producer I needed Visual Studio 2008 and SQL SERVER 2005 to be fully installed on my computer and when ThinkVantage blocked my installation of these softwares, I had to remove it inorder to get my job done. And from this I concluded that ThinkVantage software is only junk. That's my opinion, maybe other people have another opinion and I don't really care.

I'm curious, what Thinkvantage software blocked your installation of those programs?

mcmanaman wrote:ThinkVantage software was blocking my Visual Studio 2008 Installation, and SQL Server 2005 installation. These softwares are essential for my work as a .NET Developer.

Hi

I'm also a .Net developer and have VS2008, VS2005 and SQL Server 2005, Oracle 10g, ODAC, IIS etc on my X61 running Vista Business. I replaced my hard disk drive and used the Lenovo Rescue and Recovery to install everything. I can honestly say it has not been the cause of any problems I've experienced. I found the R&R a breeze to use and the driver update works well.

With the Microsoft development tools, I found the installations tedious because I needed to add service packs for both VS2005 and SQL Server before they'd run in Vista. This is down to Microsoft as is the Vista indexing issue.

I am not a hugely computer literate person, but I have a little bit of knowledge.
At first I played around with the Thinkvantage software and after a while did a re-install and only loaded a few. As I continue to read and educate myself regarding software programs my views may change as I install or uninstall programs.

Whether or not to have any thinkvantage software on the computer will make it 'better' is very subjective, and not at all tied with one's profession.