(On hold)Anyone interested in using SXGA+ 1400x1050 screens?

[Phil_123]

I found a seller selling HV121P01-100 LCD panels on taobao.com (Chinese auction site) only to find out he's actually a supplier that won't ship less than 10 panels.

This SXGA+ 1400x1050 LCD panel can be installed into X60 variants and X61 machines along with a converter cable and a modded BIOS (from microwave).
The converter cable is premade.
Installation into X40 or X41 is also possible, but the converter cable has to be modded as the cable is intended for use in X60/X61 machines. Only the connectors are the same, the pinouts are different.

Without a modified BIOS (and a modified cable, depending on what machine you use), the screen will look like this:
http://xs.to/share-F5E0_4B483145.html
(Picture from http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php ... 310568&p=1)

Anyone interested in buying the panels and converter cables?

[adrianaitken]

I would be up for 2 but it depends on the cost and how do they get shipped? To you then you post them on or is he willing to ship them indivually around the world ?

[rek]

Doh, I'm literally one day too early.. just purchased a -100 panel from eBay .. and ordered one of Erik's cables a short while ago.

[ThinkRob]

Anyone interested in buying the panels and converter cables?

Depends on the price really.

[mklym]

I am interested in a couple. Will these work with an X41 tablet, or just the X41?

[Phil_123]

First I would like to remind everyone, especially X40/X41/X41 Tablet users, you NEED to do research for installing this into your machine. I'm a new to ThinkPads myself, I only have a X40, I don't have any X6x series ThinkPads and I should not be responsible for what you do to your machine, but here are some general details of what I've found, which I do not guarantee to be complete or correct, feel free to correct them if they're wrong:
- You'll need a modified BIOS if there was never an official model of the machine with SXGA screens. (X4x and X60?)
- For X4x series, the converter cable will need to be modified to match the pin definitions of the new LCD with the original flex cable.
- For X4x series, the added length from the converter cable will make it very hard (if not impossible) to put the keyboard light into the original position unless you solder wires to extend it.

The LCDs and converter cables come from 2 different sellers. The converter cable is advertised as X60/X61 compatible.

Taobao.com is a China site, I think it'll be rare to find a seller that ships internationally, but I'll ask him anyway when the seller gets online.

I plan to have everything reach me first then shipping them individually, but I don't have a way to test the quality of the LCDs (bright/dead pixels, etc.). I can only make sure the LCDs came in one piece.

Let's assume the price for 1 LCD and 1 cable to be US$150 plus shipping for now. The price might change depending on the quantity of the order.

[adrianaitken]

If you're serious for that price I'll take 3.

[bhosa]

For that price (150+ shipping) I am interested!!

[ThinkRob]

Depending on when the order would be placed, I might be down for one at that price. Still trying to work out finances though.

[Phil_123]

Bad news guys, the supplier seems to be ignoring my questions. I'm starting to suspect what he said might have been another way of saying "we ran out of stock and don't come back asking".

I found another seller that has 2 HV121P01-100s in stock, but for a (much) higher price compared to that supplier's.

US$200 plus shipping for 1 HV121P01-100 from that seller, and 1 cable.

[martin255]

I would be interested at 200$, but I'm in Europe. Would you ship the panel to me once you get it?

[hanseatic]

Hi,

I am interested in two screens.

Europe Germany Hamburg

[tcone]

I'm interested in one screen and two cables.

Berlin, Germany

[rkan]

I could be interested in atleast one cable, and maybe one screen.

Finland, Helsinki

[Phil_123]

That supplier finally responded, answered my questions only to tell me they ran out of stock when I asked about the shipping cost of 10 -100s to Hong Kong, then ignored me when I asked if he can tell me if they get some new stock.

The other seller which previously said has 2 -100s left will see how many of them is in stock tomorrow.

I ordered an imperfect -101 and started trying to figure out how to get it working on my X40. Turns out the pin definitions of the X40 LCDs and the X60 LCDs are the same, I can use the same converter cables without modifying the cables! But no screen came out when I turned it on. Maybe I really need a modified BIOS for it to work.

[Terrahawk]

I'm interested in one HV121P01-100. US$200 plus shipping, right? I'm in New Zealand. Although I'd like to know the final price including everything so I know if I have enough money to cover it at the moment.

[Phil_123]

Not able to find another seller with HV121P01-100s or -101s in stock, I'm afraid this group purchase will be put on hold indefinitely until I find a seller with them in stock. Sorry guys.

Anyone interested in the converter cable however, send me a PM. Cables are US$11 each including shipping.

[k330]

HV121P01-100


http://www.51nb.com/forum/viewthread.ph ... ypeid%3D29

[Phil_123]

Now is the final chance to order the cables, in 24 hours I'll order the cables from that seller.

Edit: postponed to Friday 23:59 GMT+8.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/f ... =59&p1=102

[silbermann]

Hello there!
Just found another opportunity for the HV121P01... 7 panels left ... (a few hours ago it was still 8 )

http://agilentpixel.com/product.php?id_product=46

Clearly USD195 is not that cheap but at least they claim the units beeing fully tested and that there are no dead pixels. The shipping to Europe (and I think to the US as well) is USD24.

@Phil_123
Phil, i was just trying to figure out what kind of cable/connectors will be needed. May you please provide more information about the cable that you are about to order. By the way I just found out from the Boe HV121P0 datasheet that the socket at the display is a Hirose DF19L-20P-1H socket. A suitable connector (that carries 20 tiny crimped conductors) is the DF19G-20P. Now it seems almost impossible to make the crimping without having the proper tool. However Farnell sells single pieces of wire with the tiny conductors already crimped at both ends (see here http://de.farnell.com/hrs-hirose/cass-0 ... =cass-0841).
These I think just need to be pressed into the proper housing which is also available.

[adrianaitken]

Unfortuneately those are -101 panels. We need -100 ones.

[silbermann]

As far as I know there is no difference between the -100 and -101 panels.

[rek]

The -101 panel (I believe) has the writing surface bonded directly to the LCD panel, so it is a bit thicker than the -100.

However the pics on that page you linked look really like a naked panel with nothing on it (neither digitiser nor writing surface).. it'll be interesting to see what you get from the seller. Maybe these are 'raw' panels fresh off the assembly line, before any of the tablet stuff is stuck onto it?

FWIW the thickness of a -100 panel is about 5mm; 7mm if you include the writing surface (which on the -100 is mounted with thin foam tacky tape around the screen edges).

BTW - I went through the checkout and their shipping charge was only $2 to Australia. It was very tempting to take a gamble and grab one, but I'm exhausting other options from U.S. suppliers of -100 panels first.

[Phil_123]

Hello there!
Just found another opportunity for the HV121P01... 7 panels left ... (a few hours ago it was still 8 )

http://agilentpixel.com/product.php?id_product=46

Clearly USD195 is not that cheap but at least they claim the units beeing fully tested and that there are no dead pixels. The shipping to Europe (and I think to the US as well) is USD24.

@Phil_123
Phil, i was just trying to figure out what kind of cable/connectors will be needed. May you please provide more information about the cable that you are about to order. By the way I just found out from the Boe HV121P0 datasheet that the socket at the display is a Hirose DF19L-20P-1H socket. A suitable connector (that carries 20 tiny crimped conductors) is the DF19G-20P. Now it seems almost impossible to make the crimping without having the proper tool. However Farnell sells single pieces of wire with the tiny conductors already crimped at both ends (see here http://de.farnell.com/hrs-hirose/cass-0 ... =cass-0841).
These I think just need to be pressed into the proper housing which is also available.

No worries, the cable has the appropriate connectors and is already pre-soldered to convert the pin definitions to what the HV121P01 accepts
http://xs.to/image-FB9E_4B587D12.jpg

Yes the connectors are the same but the pin definitions are different, so DO NOT ATTEMPT to use the HV121P01 in an X40/X41/X60/X61/X61T with the original cable without this adapter cable, or you'll fry it!

[Phil_123]

Still accepting orders of cables until Friday 23:59 GMT+8.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/f ... =59&p1=102

[silbermann]

So hopefully I ordered the right one!
I sent an email to the agilentpixels asking whether there is a digitizer/glass plate whatever attached to the panel. No reply yet.
My impression is that the -100, -101 has nothing to do with the digitizer. The panels that I saw which were said to have a digitizer installed all had a separate PCB mounted at the backside. The -101 at agilentpixels is missing this extra board.

[bixm]

I'm interested in one cable. I'm in Poland.

[fasterbybike]

The HV121P01-101 from AgilentPixel does not have the writing surface attached. It has a glossy (not matt) protective layer applied.

And yes, sign me up for a couple of cables.

[Nihan]

One cable for me please.

[silbermann]

No worries, the cable has the appropriate connectors and is already pre-soldered to convert the pin definitions to what the HV121P01 accepts

@Phil_123:
I have two more question concerning the cables that you are about to order. From the picture that you posted I count 13 strands (I cannot see it clearly since I am still @ 1024x768). Now from the HV121P0 datasheet I see that there are pairs of differentially driven data lines separated by ground connections (RIN0-, RIN0+, GND, RIN1-, RIN1+, GND, ...). In my eyes these ground lines are there in order to prevent excessive crosstalk between the fast switching data lines. That's why my first question is whether some of the grounds will be omitted in our cable (explaining why there are < 20 wires) and if yes, what is the reason for omitting them? Second question: will the cable be made out of normal wires or will they use micro coax cables (no idea how this should work but I know that these Hirose connectors can somehow be stuffed with micro coax).

All the best, silbermann