X60s battery dead; battery or system itself to blame?
X60s battery dead; battery or system itself to blame?
I apologize for remaking my earlier thread, but I've shifted the direction of my inquiry. I'll provide a brief background first:
I own an X60s, with the regular (and original) 8 cell battery. When I first got it battery life was fantastic, and stayed as such for quite a while. About a month ago I noticed when used on battery power the laptop would only use about 30% of its actual capacity, going from 100% down to about 70% steadily then suddenly dropping down to 0. Now the battery holds no charge whatsoever, as soon as I unplug from the AC adapter the laptop goes dead.
My question then, is this: Have the cells in the battery been steadily failing (would be kind of surprised, since I'm fairly certain this is the OEM battery), or is something wrong the charging/power circuitry on the system board itself?
->In short; new battery, or new laptop?
I own an X60s, with the regular (and original) 8 cell battery. When I first got it battery life was fantastic, and stayed as such for quite a while. About a month ago I noticed when used on battery power the laptop would only use about 30% of its actual capacity, going from 100% down to about 70% steadily then suddenly dropping down to 0. Now the battery holds no charge whatsoever, as soon as I unplug from the AC adapter the laptop goes dead.
My question then, is this: Have the cells in the battery been steadily failing (would be kind of surprised, since I'm fairly certain this is the OEM battery), or is something wrong the charging/power circuitry on the system board itself?
->In short; new battery, or new laptop?
Current: X1 Carbon Gen 3 - 20BT-S1LV00 - i5-5300U - 8GB DDR3L - WQHD Touch - 256GB SSD
Previous: X60s - 1702-3QU | X200s - 7466-44U | X230 - 2325-2RU | X240sx - 20AK-A00RHH
Projects: 560 - 2640-2OU | 600E - 2645-3AU | T21 2647-6AU | X60t - 6366-L6U
Previous: X60s - 1702-3QU | X200s - 7466-44U | X230 - 2325-2RU | X240sx - 20AK-A00RHH
Projects: 560 - 2640-2OU | 600E - 2645-3AU | T21 2647-6AU | X60t - 6366-L6U
Re: X60s battery dead; battery or system itself to blame?
What you've described is a typical symptom when one or more cells in a battery are weak or dead.
Re: X60s battery dead; battery or system itself to blame?
Well that's a relief, thanks Harry. It really only takes a couple dead cells to break the circuit in the whole battery?Harryc wrote:What you've described is a typical symptom when one or more cells in a battery are weak or dead.
Current: X1 Carbon Gen 3 - 20BT-S1LV00 - i5-5300U - 8GB DDR3L - WQHD Touch - 256GB SSD
Previous: X60s - 1702-3QU | X200s - 7466-44U | X230 - 2325-2RU | X240sx - 20AK-A00RHH
Projects: 560 - 2640-2OU | 600E - 2645-3AU | T21 2647-6AU | X60t - 6366-L6U
Previous: X60s - 1702-3QU | X200s - 7466-44U | X230 - 2325-2RU | X240sx - 20AK-A00RHH
Projects: 560 - 2640-2OU | 600E - 2645-3AU | T21 2647-6AU | X60t - 6366-L6U
Re: X60s battery dead; battery or system itself to blame?
That is correct.
Re: X60s battery dead; battery or system itself to blame?
Alright, thanks for the quick responses. Off to ebay I go.Harryc wrote:That is correct.
Current: X1 Carbon Gen 3 - 20BT-S1LV00 - i5-5300U - 8GB DDR3L - WQHD Touch - 256GB SSD
Previous: X60s - 1702-3QU | X200s - 7466-44U | X230 - 2325-2RU | X240sx - 20AK-A00RHH
Projects: 560 - 2640-2OU | 600E - 2645-3AU | T21 2647-6AU | X60t - 6366-L6U
Previous: X60s - 1702-3QU | X200s - 7466-44U | X230 - 2325-2RU | X240sx - 20AK-A00RHH
Projects: 560 - 2640-2OU | 600E - 2645-3AU | T21 2647-6AU | X60t - 6366-L6U
Re: X60s battery dead; battery or system itself to blame?
Interesting post. I was fortunate to get my X60s for a VERY low price because the previous owner thought the X60s had gone bad when it was only a dead battery. Lucky me.
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Re: X60s battery dead; battery or system itself to blame?
Well, if you look around the forum, you'll notice a lot of topics covering x60 and x60s with bad batteries. Apparently, there was a recall back in August 2009, and most of the batteries had some sort of an error (Sony cells to be precise). My 8-cell battery went bad about a month ago, almost at the same time I bought my x60s used. Luckily, previous owner and I came to an agreement 
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ThinkPad X60s 1703-WUT
[Ex] ThinkPad T41 2373-TG5
[Ex] ThinkPad T23 2647-4RG
"People can have the Model T in any colour - so long as it's black."
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Re: X60s battery dead; battery or system itself to blame?
Heh, that might have been me had it not been for this wonderful forum. Glad you were able to gain from it though.John H wrote:Interesting post. I was fortunate to get my X60s for a VERY low price because the previous owner thought the X60s had gone bad when it was only a dead battery. Lucky me.
Good to know, to be honest I was kind of ignorant of the search feature in posting this. Mine definitely has Sony cells, and I'm pretty sure would have been part of this recall.jimmy274 wrote:Well, if you look around the forum, you'll notice a lot of topics covering x60 and x60s with bad batteries. Apparently, there was a recall back in August 2009, and most of the batteries had some sort of an error (Sony cells to be precise). My 8-cell battery went bad about a month ago, almost at the same time I bought my x60s used. Luckily, previous owner and I came to an agreement
Glad you were able to work it out though, mine kicked around too long for me to try and talk with the seller.
Current: X1 Carbon Gen 3 - 20BT-S1LV00 - i5-5300U - 8GB DDR3L - WQHD Touch - 256GB SSD
Previous: X60s - 1702-3QU | X200s - 7466-44U | X230 - 2325-2RU | X240sx - 20AK-A00RHH
Projects: 560 - 2640-2OU | 600E - 2645-3AU | T21 2647-6AU | X60t - 6366-L6U
Previous: X60s - 1702-3QU | X200s - 7466-44U | X230 - 2325-2RU | X240sx - 20AK-A00RHH
Projects: 560 - 2640-2OU | 600E - 2645-3AU | T21 2647-6AU | X60t - 6366-L6U
Re: X60s battery dead; battery or system itself to blame?
The x60 is the only ThinkPad I have owned that would not boot without a good battery. Take the battery out...it appears to be dead. Put a dead (defective) battery in...still no start.
But...when you put in a good battery it works fine.
But...when you put in a good battery it works fine.
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Re: X60s battery dead; battery or system itself to blame?
For the sake of closure, I bought a new battery off ebay and that solved all my issues. Don't seem to get as much juice out of the new one, but I have yet to really figure out the power management in linux.
thanks all
thanks all
Current: X1 Carbon Gen 3 - 20BT-S1LV00 - i5-5300U - 8GB DDR3L - WQHD Touch - 256GB SSD
Previous: X60s - 1702-3QU | X200s - 7466-44U | X230 - 2325-2RU | X240sx - 20AK-A00RHH
Projects: 560 - 2640-2OU | 600E - 2645-3AU | T21 2647-6AU | X60t - 6366-L6U
Previous: X60s - 1702-3QU | X200s - 7466-44U | X230 - 2325-2RU | X240sx - 20AK-A00RHH
Projects: 560 - 2640-2OU | 600E - 2645-3AU | T21 2647-6AU | X60t - 6366-L6U
Re: X60s battery dead; battery or system itself to blame?
Same here. I got my X61 for cheap because the previous owner thought the laptop wasn't charging the battery anymore...John H wrote:I was fortunate to get my X60s for a VERY low price because the previous owner thought the X60s had gone bad when it was only a dead battery. Lucky me.
Of course, a $40 ebay battery was all it needed.
It's not every day you come across a X61 with a T8300 in it! I almost felt a little guilty about the deal but whatever, his loss was my gain.
Re: X60s battery dead; battery or system itself to blame?
I had exactly the same problem with an X60s purchase with bad battery, unlucky me I had to go out and buy a new one.jimmy274 wrote:Well, if you look around the forum, you'll notice a lot of topics covering x60 and x60s with bad batteries. Apparently, there was a recall back in August 2009, and most of the batteries had some sort of an error (Sony cells to be precise). My 8-cell battery went bad about a month ago, almost at the same time I bought my x60s used. Luckily, previous owner and I came to an agreement
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