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Mac OS-X on PC??

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:20 am
by icantux
Now, I'm no slouch with computing and operating systems, dabbling in OS/2, Linux, Window$ ... Heck I've even tried a Mac once (wasn't actually mine), but there wasn't enough emotional pain involved with running the system so I reverted back to something that gave me regular headaches.. the PC..

How is this possible? OS-X on a PC? I was always under impression that the hardware was somehow, well, special. How can someone just grab a copy of OS-X and install that on a ThinkPad? Is it easy? (heck I may have a go at this). What's involved in such an installation, and would a dual-boot be possible?

Awaiting your answers ...

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:48 pm
by benz
Well, it's a long story but here's a synopsis:

Apple decides to convert to Intel processors, rather than the previous PowerPC (they require different sets of instructions, that's why software built for a PPC will not run on an Intel, and vice-versa). Thus, they must rework their operating system (OS X) so that it will work on an Intel core (ie. x86). Naturally, they resease a version of the x86-compatible OS X to developers, one (or more) of whom leak the release to the public, and boom, we have people dual-booting OS X and WinXP on their Thinkpads.

If you want to read more, check out these sites:

http://www.osx86project.org/

http://www.xplodenet.com/blog/

http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:03 pm
by christopher_wolf
A dual boot is possible and people have gotten OS X to run on Thinkpads (Finally, a Trackpoint for OS X! :D ) Look through the links posted and you will find alot of useful information.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:22 pm
by icantux
Ah sweet! :P

I'll have to give this a try! My favourite - experimenting with an operating system to see what it has to offer!

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:41 am
by benz
Interestingly, just a few hours after someone posted a full guide for installing 10.4.4 from the System Rescue DVD, the OSX86Project forums were served with a DCMA notice and shut down. Apple seems to have snapped:

http://forum.osx86project.org/

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:26 pm
by icantux
Ah nuts! :(

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:10 am
by farna
The osx86 forums are now up -- not sure what happened with Apple!

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:56 pm
by Kyocera
icantux, post your results if you don't mind i downloaded cpu-z to see if i can do this on my t42 spare hd.

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:00 pm
by icantux
well I installed Tiger (10.4.4) on my T42 on a dedicated 40GB drive (hitachi travelstar 5400rpm) and it's working very well so far at 1024x768 with full sound without any tweaks. One sore point is that I can't get the OS to boot from the hdd - the DVD has to be in the drive otherwise I get a PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel Boot Agent error.

Works:
screen res at 1024x768
sound - out of the box
mouse, trackpad, ultranav (no problems)

what doesn't
no hdd boot - fixed, look below
no wifi - yet
no ethernet

haven't tried:
sleep, hibernate, etc..
... anything else???

Time to figure all that out.

Here are my system specs:
T42 (2378-reu)
1.8Ghz
1.5G RAM
15" sxga 1400x1050
ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 64MB
40GB hdd in the belly (eventually will go in an 2.5" enclosure)
IBM a/b/g atheros 5212
external microsoft notebook optical mouse 3000

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:03 am
by icantux
update:

Got the OS to boot from the harddrive - the dvd is no longer necessary. It seems that the installer/erase utility forgot to mark the drive active and thus I couldn't boot from the harddrive. I quickly fixed the problem with fdisk. Thank goodness for my knowledge of linux in this respect.

After installing MacOS a second time, I booted with the DVD in the drive and invoked a single-user mode right after boot:
- pressed f8 to get prompt
- typed "-s" (without quotes)
- typed fdisk -e /dev/rdisk0
- typed "print" to see what the problem was with the boot partition
- noticed the partition wasn't marked active
- typed "flag 1" to mark the partition active
- rebooted from hdd everything worked fine.

I suppose any fdisk utility would have done the trick (linux livecd, win98 cd, etc...). I just preferred to fix the problem in the native way.

..... Now to get the ethernet and wifi working. :roll:

And who ever said that Mac was plug and play... Sure this is a thinkpad, but still. With all those extensions already included, it should easily recognize the ethernet (intel 8254x). pfff