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At the forum for the EEE PC - http://forum.eeeuser.com - there is a question of the legality of installing Apple OS onto the EEE PC. If one can buy the Apple OS separately from the Apple computer, would it not be legal to install it onto whatever hardware one wanted to? (or at least try?).

Well the first stop should have been this:
http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/

This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time.

So yeah, you'd be violating their EULA.

Thank you for the link.

well technically speaking, I can make a label and put the word "apple" on it and put it on the computer and I would'nt be violating the Eula.
this section of the EULA is very gray in legal term's, however if the EULA had stated that it could only be installed on one(1) Apple Manufactured/brand Computer it would be a solid statement.
although morally it is illegal and a poor choice of words.

But amongst all of this nonsense about this statement I am sure there probably is something in the eula that states you agree not to alter the core components of the software which includes disableing the verification features of the software. That is required to be tampered with to get mac on a whitebox anyway.

EDIT: the eula states no altering of closed source material, but you can alter open source material. i am sure the Kernal is open source but the Security feature to prevent installation on "non apple-labeled computers" is most deffinately not open source, neither are the ROMS/FIRMWARES. but the roms/firmwares can be put on "apple-labeled" computers. so if you download a rom/firmware "update" from their website you could install that to a "compatable" motherboard and techically still be legal as long as the computer the mother board is in has that "label" mentioned earlier. and the Roms/firmwares canot legaly be copied or transfered to another user.

"F. Except as and only to the extent permitted by applicable licensing terms governing use of the Open-Sourced Components, or by applicable law, you may not copy,
decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, modify, or create derivative works of the Apple Software or any part thereof."

"C. You may make one copy of the Apple Software (excluding the Boot ROM code and other Apple firmware that is embedded or otherwise contained in Apple-labeled
hardware) in machine-readable form for backup purposes only; provided that the backup copy must include all copyright or other proprietary notices contained on the
original. Apple Boot ROM code and firmware is provided only for use on Apple-labeled hardware and you may not copy, modify or redistribute the Apple Boot ROM code or
firmware, or any portions thereof."


And on top of that, if you want to cover all of your bases you can get an APPLE employee to print the label and put it on your computer and then you can say that "APPLE" (any employee that works for apple is a representative of apple) labeled your computer.

This statement is not ment to find a way around the legalities but to mearly state flaws within the lisence based on the whole "Label" theory.
This site BTW does not support Illegal activities but this site supports the freedom of speech, talking about putting OSX on a laptop is not illegal, you will need to aquire your own sources to support your Installation and you should not post links to these sources either.

you know, i bet you could leglly make an unaltered copy of OSX run on a pc eventually though. theres gotta be a bug somewhere right? just remember that whole "label thing"

jamerslong wrote:well technically speaking, I can make a label and put the word "apple" on it and put it on the computer and I would'nt be violating the Eula.

no, you technically cannot do that. Label means hardware certification and apple owns that label, not you. In other words, you can't write "adidas" on the t-shirt and sell it as "adidas". Exactly same thing goes for Apple lablel.

So the answer is no, you would be breaking Apple EULA in either case.

I disagree, if you take the Term litteraly all I have to do is put a label ont it. theres more then one way to interpret that. it does'nt have to have the Apple Insignia or even come close to representing the look of apple, that's like saying I need to obtain permission from Apple to print the letters "Apple" onto anything. they dont own the word, they own the image.

so technically I can, one of the problems with the english language is that alot of words have more then one meaning, label is one of them.
If you interpret it your way I can't, and if I enterpret it my way I can.
It's a loophole

you can't blame a bumbling idiot for thinking that, because if it can be interpreted more the one way then it is wrong and the end user can't be blamed for not knowing the difference.

jamerslong wrote:I disagree, if you take the Term litteraly all I have to do is put a label ont it. theres more then one way to interpret that. it does'nt have to have the Apple Insignia or even come close to representing the look of apple, that's like saying I need to obtain permission from Apple to print the letters "Apple" onto anything. they dont own the word, they own the image.

so technically I can, one of the problems with the english language is that alot of words have more then one meaning, label is one of them.
If you interpret it your way I can't, and if I enterpret it my way I can.
It's a loophole

you can't blame a bumbling idiot for thinking that, because if it can be interpreted more the one way then it is wrong and the end user can't be blamed for not knowing the difference.

Nope, it is pretty clear to interpret that in a single way. Apple-labeled clearly means that product contains Apple logo. And you can't put apple logo on products that are not made by apple. Period.

If you print a word "apple" and stick it on a PC, that doesn't make your PC made by Apple, therefore does not qualify for Apple-labeled hardware. And on top of that, you can technically even be sued by Apple for logo infringment if you do that.

andrey wrote:
If you print a word "apple" and stick it on a PC, that doesn't make your PC made by Apple, therefore does not qualify for Apple-labeled hardware. And on top of that, you can technically even be sued by Apple for logo infringment if you do that.

i'd like to see them try, hell let the beatles sue me too

besides the EULA says nothing about only installing the software on apple made computer and me putting the word apple on my computer with a labler machine dosent make it an apple made computer it just makes it apple lebeled. it was labeled with the word apple, get it?

but i am sure nonny will come and lock this thread she allways kills heated debates