Thinkpads Forum

Please Please Please... I am trying to solve a problem that has long been solved for ThinkPads, but because my laptop is relatively new, Lenovo has no answer for it yet.

My last resort is this nice community.

But if my problem is Lenovo 3000 specific, where do I post it?
MODERATOR EDIT: You can post it in the Off-Topic section for now, as nonny said.

Thus I beg having a forum dedicated to Lenovo laptops, just as there are for various ThinkPad series. I do have a real ThinkPad (an old 600e) if this helps accepting me to the community.

If you are interested to learn more about my adventure with my Lenovo 3000 N100, you can read it all here: http://tinyurl.com/lwk49

If you can suggest where to post my request for help regarding my F11 problem, I would appreciate it.

Thanks!
Alex

xp_newbie wrote:Thus I beg having a forum dedicated to Lenovo laptops, just as there are for various ThinkPad series.

No. This has already been decided by the mod team. This community is for ThinkPads.

nonny wrote: No. This has already been decided by the mod team. This community is for ThinkPads.

OK. No problem.

But now I am curious: What are the differences between a Lenovo laptop and a ThinkPad? (except for the label that is)

The Thinkpad is from a long line of fine IBM products.

The Lenovo systems are new and are built nothing like the Thinkpad. They are also considered budget systems, and IMHO are not meant/made to last as long as a Thinkpad.

tfflivemb2 wrote:The Thinkpad is from a long line of fine IBM products.

The Lenovo systems are new and are built nothing like the Thinkpad. They are also considered budget systems, and IMHO are not meant/made to last as long as a Thinkpad.

Are you sure it's not some marketing thing?

After all, it would cost Lenovo more to build two separate manufacturing lines for exactly the same thing.

Or are you saying that they are not the same thing? If so, what is the difference? I can tell you that my new Lenovo outer shell is made of plastic, not titanium. Are the new ThinkPads manufactured by Lenovo still made of titanium?

Another difference I noticed is that the F11 re-enabling utility provided here probably works fine with ThinkPads, but on my Lenovo 3000 it does exactly nothing (neither good nor bad, simply as if it were never applied).

Any idea how to pursue the F11 challenge on my Lenovo laptop? It is hard for me to believe that Lenovo went to great length to use some more advanced F11 technology in its budget line.

Thanks,
Alex

xp_newbie wrote:

tfflivemb2 wrote:The Thinkpad is from a long line of fine IBM products.

The Lenovo systems are new and are built nothing like the Thinkpad. They are also considered budget systems, and IMHO are not meant/made to last as long as a Thinkpad.

Are you sure it's not some marketing thing?

After all, it would cost Lenovo more to build two separate manufacturing lines for exactly the same thing.

Or are you saying that they are not the same thing? If so, what is the difference? I can tell you that my new Lenovo outer shell is made of plastic, not titanium. Are the new ThinkPads manufactured by Lenovo still made of titanium?

Another difference I noticed is that the F11 re-enabling utility provided here probably works fine with ThinkPads, but on my Lenovo 3000 it does exactly nothing (neither good nor bad, simply as if it were never applied).

Any idea how to pursue the F11 challenge on my Lenovo laptop? It is hard for me to believe that Lenovo went to great length to use some more advanced F11 technology in its budget line.

Thanks,
Alex

LOL; yeah, we are sure that the Thinkpads are different from the 3000s. Lenovo appears to be happy with it, so it is fulfilling some need for them; and, no, they are not the same thing.

As for the F11 thing, that really isn't amazing that it works for both considering that it can be supported simply by Lenovo installing the right things to begin with on the the drive. In fact, should a mfg of laptops want, they can try the same things one their laptops. It is dependent on the software and requires no special changes to the hardware other than having an up-to-date BIOS. The technology isn't more "advanced," it is the same. They save costs by being able to support two different hardware lines with the same program that backs up the original drive image, no more no less.

And the Titanium is still in the Thinkpads and looks to be for the years to come.