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X201 no backlight
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:51 am
by Cola
Hi, I recently bought an X201 with no backlight on the screen. I bought a replacement LCD for it and fit it today, unfortunately with the same results - the Thinkpad logo shows up slightly on the screen, but the screen is not illuminated. Everything works as usual using an external monitor.
Since this PC uses LED-backlit screens, there are no inverter board (as far as I know of).
What do I start checking, what could cause this problem? I know for sure that the original screen is functional and is not cracked. The new one is also fully functional.
EDIT:
Read something about a blown fuse, found the one labeled F1 on the motherboard, right next to the lcd connector but I am unable to identify the fuse as blown or not.
picture here:
https://i.gyazo.com/a70f9f36dc867c40842 ... 68c747.png
Read about it here:
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=106172
Re: X201 no backlight
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:53 am
by RealBlackStuff
Use a (digital) multimeter such as this one:
Set the rotating switch to CONTINUITY (in the above picture it's the Diode/Buzzer symbol ->|- •))) position, under the word SELECT, and press the SELECT switch to turn the buzzer on/off).
Touch the test probes together, to check that the meter buzzes.
Now touch the probes to both sides of the fuse. If the fuse is OK, you will hear the buzzer.
If the fuse is blown, you hear
silence
Repair it by piggy-back soldering a new fuse on top of the old one.
Fast-acting FUSE, 3A, 32V
Re: X201 no backlight
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:49 pm
by Cola
Cheers, just the info I needed! I'll give it a go in the weekend.
Re: X201 no backlight
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:15 am
by Cola
Finally got around to have a look at this. Is there a certain approach to apply when soldering the new fuse on top of the old one? When I finally manage to get my soldering iron into just the right spot, I cannot seem to get any type of solder to stick, and the fuse is so small that they are nearly impossible to align properly. Any tips are greatily appreciated.
Re: X201 no backlight
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:43 pm
by axur-delmeria
While I haven't tried soldering microfuses yet, I've read a simple advice in an electronics forum elsewhere: use a small dab of superglue to fix the fuse in place so that it won't move when you're soldering.
Of course, you should superglue the body of the fuse and not the metal terminals.

Re: X201 no backlight
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:16 pm
by RealBlackStuff
Superglue the fuse to the end of a matchstick.
Then put the fuse in place (piggyback on top of the old one) and tape the rest of that match to the motherboard (works 8 out of 10 times).
Easy to then solder the fuse and break off the match.
Re: X201 no backlight
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:41 pm
by rkawakami
Some comments for future use...
RealBlackStuff wrote:Set the rotating switch to CONTINUITY (in the above picture it's the Diode/Buzzer symbol ->|- •))) position, under the word SELECT, and press the SELECT switch to turn the buzzer on/off). Touch the test probes together, to check that the meter buzzes.
I would recommend using the OHMS (resistance) range on the multimeter instead of the Buzzer or Diode check. The reason being is that the voltage applied across the multimeter leads in the ohmmeter mode (~0.2V, for my similar Craftsman meter) is typically lower than what's provided with the diode check (~1.5V) or buzzer (~0.45V). No sense in applying more voltage than needed to see if the fuse is blown. Also, the buzzer or diode check could give a sound or reading for a resistance of several hundred ohms (depends on the meter), which means if the fuse is bad (infinite ohms) but the rest of the circuit provides a path of resistance, it's possible to falsely label a bad fuse "good". If the meter is in the resistance mode and measures 0 ohms, you KNOW that the fuse is good. Anything other than 0 ohms (or very nearly so) is a bad fuse.
axur-delmeria wrote:While I haven't tried soldering microfuses yet, I've read a simple advice in an electronics forum elsewhere: use a small dab of superglue to fix the fuse in place so that it won't move when you're soldering.
RealBlackStuff wrote:Superglue the fuse to the end of a matchstick. Then put the fuse in place (piggyback on top of the old one) and tape the rest of that match to the motherboard (works 8 out of 10 times).
What works for me is to
tin the ends of the replacement fuse
before attempting to mount it atop the bad fuse. This involves applying a
tiny amount of solder onto each end of the fuse. Do this by melting a small amount of solder on the tip of the iron and then touching it to one end of the fuse, holding it down with some tweezers or small screwdriver. Obviously do this on a surface which can withstand the heat and/or you don't mind ruining. Repeat on the other end. Then put the fuse on top of the blown one (tinned side down), heat up one end with the soldering iron and repeat on the other end, again holding down the new fuse with tweezers or screwdriver. This method can be eliminated if you have a second set of hands to help with holding down the fuse while you solder it in place.
Re: X201 no backlight
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:06 am
by RealBlackStuff
I normally do it the same way as Ray describes, but for educational purposes I suggested using the match.
During my LED-mod days I have replaced possibly close to 100 fuses.
On my T60 test-machine I have soldered two wires to the fuse-location (F8 next to the video-cable connector).
The other ends have a tiny alligator clip each.
The fuse itself sits in the middle of 3-4 layers of white electrical tape, with both fuse-ends sticking out.
The alligator clips each 'bite' on one side of that fuse.
If I blow the fuse, I just unclip the alligator clamps, push the old fuse out, push a new fuse in, and reattach the clamps.
Takes only a few seconds.
Re: X201 no backlight
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:33 pm
by imahustla
Hey cola i have another thread with same model and problem :
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=119577
Did you already manage to solder it?