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Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:17 am
by seasonshu
Tasurinchi wrote:Thinking out loud, it would be good to have a list of panels that may work, so far two are known:
- LP125WF2-SPB3
- B125HAN02.0
Lurking for the first above I contacted an eBay seller and he replied they have LP125WF2-SPB1 in stock, would that one work too? Checking panelook.com seems the specs are similar
Tasurinchi, this has been answered before:
nitrocaster wrote:
LP125WF2-SPB1 suffers from burn-in effect, you don't want to get one of them. LP125WF2-SPB2 doesn't, but it also doesn't have mounting holes.
nitrocaster wrote:I expect the cables to arrive in about 3 days.
Can't wait!
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:20 am
by carcuevas
nitrocaster wrote:I expect the cables to arrive in about 3 days.
Beautiful news

!!!

Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:22 am
by Leosleo
Good news, but a source where to buy the screen would be a great thing! Help!
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:48 am
by Tasurinchi
seasonshu wrote:Tasurinchi, this has been answered before:
nitrocaster wrote:
LP125WF2-SPB1 suffers from burn-in effect, you don't want to get one of them. LP125WF2-SPB2 doesn't, but it also doesn't have mounting holes.
D@rn, must have missed that one... Thanks!
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:56 pm
by nitrocaster
Just finished testing a pair of LP125WF2-SPB4 - they work fine. Ordered here:
www.ebay.com/itm/301938150362
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:37 pm
by theterminator93
Excellent, because that's the guy I was going to order from!

Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:17 pm
by carcuevas
Thanks a lot for the tip

I already oredered

it will be my Xmas present

Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:56 pm
by Leosleo
Always thanks Nitro!
Two noob questions:
- This screen will work also under Ubuntu and OSX(Hackintosh)?
- The ebay seller you suggested sends compatible model, as it's written in the item description. It's the same or not?
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:01 am
by nitrocaster
Leosleo wrote:
- This screen will work also under Ubuntu and OSX(Hackintosh)?
I tested it under Windows and Ubuntu. OSX should support this mod as soon as it supports multidisplay configurations.
Leosleo wrote:
- The ebay seller you suggested sends compatible model, as it's written in the item description. It's the same or not?
You need either SPB3 or SPB4. Ask for these exact models.
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:55 am
by nitrocaster
Bad news. Cable supplier just informed me that shipment was returned due to a failed security check. Going to wait a little more...
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:59 am
by RealBlackStuff
Funny, I had those same people bookmarked for ages and I only ordered mine on Sunday!
And then nitrocaster confirmed my (right) choice the next Monday!
I told them nicely that my X230 needed an upgrade, but that it could ONLY be LP125WF2-SPB4.
They agreed and the -SPB4 is on its way.
All I need now is the kit, can't wait...
OUCH for the cable delay, as I just now saw.
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:06 am
by seasonshu
nitrocaster wrote:Bad news. Cable supplier just informed me that shipment was returned due to a failed security check. Going to wait a little more...
I can't even imagine what this might mean? A bunch of cables in a box was identified as 'threat'? Really?
There is a really good condition X230 offered for sale for a reasonable price. I really want to pull the trigger on that before gone.. but want to secure a kit (or actually, two) first...
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:18 am
by nitrocaster
seasonshu wrote:
I can't even imagine what this might mean? A bunch of cables in a box was identified as 'threat'? Really?
That's China

We can only guess what has gone wrong.
seasonshu wrote:
There is a really good condition X230 offered for sale for a reasonable price. I really want to pull the trigger on that before gone.. but want to secure a kit (or actually, two) first...
Once I get the cables there will be ~60 kits ready for sale, which I suppose would be enough for some time. If there will be more interest on this kit, I'll arrange a new batch.
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:33 am
by pamark
Thank you for your effort.
I know display port on the left side keeps working after doing this mod; but
Does display port on dock station/connector work if laptop lid is closed.
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:36 am
by seasonshu
nitrocaster wrote:
Once I get the cables there will be ~60 kits ready for sale, which I suppose would be enough for some time. If there will be more interest on this kit, I'll arrange a new batch.
That's very reassuring, many thanks. Previously you mentioned 19 kits only, it's good to see the increased number.
I really appreciate all your efforts and keeping us well informed of any silly questions we (I) may have.
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:02 pm
by nitrocaster
pamark wrote:Does display port on dock station/connector work if laptop lid is closed.
DisplayPort/DVI #2 on dock doesn't work with this mod (and with any other FHD mod for X220/X230).
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:10 am
by carcuevas
nitrocaster wrote:pamark wrote:Does display port on dock station/connector work if laptop lid is closed.
DisplayPort/DVI #2 on dock doesn't work with this mod (and with any other FHD mod for X220/X230).
I would say this is really really small price to pay

Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:12 pm
by mr.rhtuner
I'm excited...I'll wait to see how the rest of you guys get going with these installs once you acquire the panel/kit. Amazing job nitrocaster. I'm guessing you dabble in electronics for a career?
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:36 pm
by nitrocaster
mr.rhtuner wrote:I'm excited...I'll wait to see how the rest of you guys get going with these installs once you acquire the panel/kit. Amazing job nitrocaster. I'm guessing you dabble in electronics for a career?
Actually, I recently got a bachelor in software engineering and career almost hasn't touched me yet. Electronics is just a hobby thing

Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:28 am
by nitrocaster
Try #2: new ETA is Nov 17.
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:21 am
by carcuevas
nitrocaster wrote:Try #2: new ETA is Nov 17.
Great news looking forward!!! Thanks once again for the work

Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:59 am
by nitrocaster
Meanwhile I made an open source tool for Windows to enable dithering and FRC (e.g. to fix banding/weird gradients):
https://github.com/nitrocaster/igfxtweak
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:38 am
by Leosleo
nitrocaster wrote:Try #2: new ETA is Nov 17.
Good to hear, bro!
Thanks always!
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:21 am
by seasonshu
RealBlackStuff wrote:I told them nicely that my X230 needed an upgrade, but that it could ONLY be LP125WF2-SPB4.
Any particular reason SPB4 is better than SPB3? Checking
http://www.panelook.com/modeldetail.php?id=25936:
SPB4/SPB3:
cd/m2: 300/400
C/R: 600:1/700:1
Color: 16.7M / 262K
I am not particularly picky of colours (though probably there's no real difference) but would like use the lcd in relatively bright sunlight. Does it mean I'll want an SPB3?
nitrocaster wrote:Try #2: new ETA is Nov 17.

Great, I bought two X230 and ordering other stuff now. It's going to be a great Christmas this year!

Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:31 am
by nitrocaster
SPB4 is actually 300 cd/m2. Specs on panelook.com are not exacly correct.
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:46 am
by RealBlackStuff
seasonshu wrote:Any particular reason SPB4 is better than SPB3?
SPB4 is not necessarily better than SPB3, but my reasons for choosing SPB4:
- more colors (16.7M vs 262K)
- less power consumption (3.8W vs 5.0W)
- longer life (15K vs 12K)
- brighter is not always better
plus the fact that
nitrocaster had good testing results with SPB4.
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:54 am
by nitrocaster
RealBlackStuff wrote:seasonshu wrote:Any particular reason SPB4 is better than SPB3?
SPB4 is not necessarily better than SPB3, but my reasons for choosing SPB4:
- more colors (16.7M vs 262K)
- less power consumption (3.8W vs 5.0W)
- longer life (15K vs 12K)
- brighter is not always better
plus the fact that
nitrocaster had good testing results with SPB4.
Do you have a datasheet for SPB3? I haven't seen one yet.
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:56 am
by seasonshu
nitrocaster wrote:Do you have a datasheet for SPB3? I haven't seen one yet.
Do you mean these?
SPB3:
http://www.panelook.com/LP125WF2-SPB3_L ... 25936.html
SPB4:
http://www.panelook.com/LP125WF2-SPB4_L ... 24654.html
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:18 am
by nitrocaster
I mean PDF, not specs from panelook.
The above parameters are not from the datasheet, only as a reference, please use with caution!
Re: X220 FHD Upgrade?
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:51 am
by RealBlackStuff
So far I've only been able to find a LP125WF2-
SPB1 PDF.
EDIT: found the
SPB4:
http://www.58display.com/ggs/LP125WF2-SPB4.pdf