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Re: WIP DIY x320, what I learned so far

#151 Post by apala4 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:29 pm

well, it is 4.21AM and i.m chatting with taobao seller (has an additional store - www.hktrx.com).
He said that it is not very convenient to sell B133HAN04.6 as he has to order wholesale from factory.
here are dimensions of B133HAN04.9 (https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=563096434566)
looks as if it should fit well
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and B133HAN04.6 (https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=561 ... v4n1o00010)
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#152 Post by boutch55555 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:48 am

I just compared with my old W21 and it should fit, with bottom PCB it's only ~1mm higher vertically. But since the pcb at bottom is 250mm wide, it would need a cut on each side, there is only 239mm between the hinges. I did it without issues on the W21, W11 and my 12.5" LP125WF2-SPB3 but I can't be 100% sure the 4.9 is safe to cut at that location.

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Re: WIP DIY x320, what I learned so far

#153 Post by apala4 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:20 am

boutch55555 wrote:I just compared with my old W21 and it should fit, with bottom PCB it's only ~1mm higher vertically. But since the pcb at bottom is 250mm wide, it would need a cut on each side, there is only 239mm between the hinges. I did it without issues on the W21, W11 and my 12.5" LP125WF2-SPB3 but I can't be 100% sure the 4.9 is safe to cut at that location.
Already ordered anyway. Will check if it was a right choice when receive.

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#154 Post by evening_hunger » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:56 am

Is there any particular reason why a B133HAN03.2 couldn't be used? It's between 2 and 3 times cheaper than B133HAN04.6, and it's weakness-es are only 50% srgb (instead of 72% of 4.6), and 700:1 instead of 800:1. Mr. Wallet says I could live with that. Truly, it has metal clips (35 seconds with pliers should take care of that) but seems to have identical dimensions as 4.6.

I'm generally collecting info both on Tatobao guys (comparing them with nitrocaster) and on the panels to pull it all off in a non-apolyptically-expensive way.
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#155 Post by boutch55555 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:02 am

Panelook lists it as 306.3×194.9 mm, that wouldn't fit horizontally, needs to be less than 301mm.

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#156 Post by apala4 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:06 am

evening_hunger wrote: I'm generally collecting info both on Tatobao guys (comparing them with nitrocaster) and on the panels to pull it all off in a non-apolyptically-expensive way.
I was unable to find 04.6 in stock on taobao. Please post the link if you find any. TIA.

btw
a B133HAN03.2 couldn't be used? It's between 2 and 3 times cheaper than B133HAN04.6
a brief search on tao shows almost the same prices for 03.2 (220+ Yuan) and 04.6 (268 Yuan).

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#157 Post by evening_hunger » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:36 am

There was a way bigger price diffrence between this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232669048978 ... Track=true
and this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13-3-LED-LCD-S ... Sw3sRaWF8I
but you're correct, I might get that from taobao in such case. Good.
Thanks boutch I got dimensions wrong, well I just looked up...active area, dang. OK I get it now:)
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Re: WIP DIY x320, what I learned so far

#158 Post by apala4 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:48 am

B133HAN04.6
Just wonder if here are many people looking for this very LCD.
seller from taobao asks in order to decide whether it would be convenient to order a bunch from the factory.

Sorry if this is a wrong place to ask.

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#159 Post by evening_hunger » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:10 am

From my understanding it has better color space coverage than other models in AUO's B133HAN subgroup, better contrast ratio while being still matte. But I might be wrong:)
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#160 Post by alisan » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:55 am

apala4 wrote: Just wonder if here are many people looking for this very LCD.
seller from taobao asks in order to decide whether it would be convenient to order a bunch from the factory.


You make a doodle or something like that to get a rough estimate of the number of panels to order, people have been asking me on Reddit about that panel and I'm redirecting them this post.

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Re: WIP DIY x320, what I learned so far

#161 Post by apala4 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:07 am

alisan wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:55 am
You make a doodle or something like that to get a rough estimate of the number of panels to order, people have been asking me on Reddit about that panel and I'm redirecting them this post.
Primitive google form: https://goo.gl/forms/M8U4Iko7kSlNFZmC2
Let me know if any additional info required.
I know that further questions would be where to order, price, payment method, shipping service term etc but for now it is a simple questionary to help/reassure seller on taobao (the only I found who consider start/continue to sell these panels). https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=561 ... v4n1o00010

Once you have found another resource/store/seller to buy from please share the link so we will not stick to this seller only.

Hope there are no many mistakes feel free to correct if any

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#162 Post by alisan » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:26 am

I've added a reddit post advertising your survey. Actually at this point I'm interested in getting also a B133HAN04.6 screen, as a spare one in case something bad happens to my current screen, installed on my x330.

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#163 Post by pamark » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:13 am

Hi all
I just installed the nitro's mod and LQ133M1JW15 screen 5mins ago. I had to cut pcb(with dremel) to fit panel's pcb between hinges- to bring whole panel down(look the pictures). One thing left is to cut the bezel. I found some workshop with laser cutting and CNCs.... W15 panel has connector on the closer side, so you don't have to use cable extenders.

I got one problem, I lost trackpoint, trackpoint buttons and touchpad after moding. Keyboard works. ???? They are not recognized in control panel. I don't know what to do. I use usb mouse


https://imgur.com/a/PL5zV

EDIT: Bezel is cut, I used scalpel and fine Sandpaper. In workshop, it would take 2 hours and 20euros, so I decided to go on my own
For keeping screen inside i used double sided foam tape on the left, bottom and right. Middle portion is just for support(look on the new pictures).
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Re: WIP DIY x320, what I learned so far

#164 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:16 am

Check the BIOS for the Trackpoint and Touchpad. Both can be hardware disabled there.
Thinkpad4by3's Law of the Universe.

The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.

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Re: WIP DIY x320, what I learned so far

#165 Post by apala4 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:10 am

alisan wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:26 am
I've added a reddit post advertising your survey. Actually at this point I'm interested in getting also a B133HAN04.6 screen, as a spare one in case something bad happens to my current screen, installed on my x330.
Replied there.
The only option left is direct shipping from HK worldwide using DHL.
Grade A: 1pcs: 80-85usd 2pcs:133-140usd 5pcs:291-310usd 10pcs:550-570usd

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#166 Post by Tsanten » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:32 pm

Somebody tried this screen 13,3 M133NWF4 R0 it has way more color fidelity than the others and only 2 problems : 200hz pwm flickering and is slow.
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#167 Post by boutch55555 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:08 pm

Not that I know of. At 300.26mm wide, it will be very tight and you will have to use double sided tape to hold the bezel sides. Might be a bit offset too.

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#168 Post by redbluerat » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:03 pm

boutch55555 wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:08 pm
Hi, just wondering if there's a consensus on the best screen for this. I want to avoid the xps panel because of the auto brightness / CABC. Is there a perfect panel for this build?

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#169 Post by Tsanten » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:22 am

Done it and all good but the sides are too thin .
M133NWF4 R0
But you have to be good at diy otherwise stick with 12,5 and live happy.

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#170 Post by boutch55555 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:44 pm

redbluerat wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:03 pm
Hi, just wondering if there's a consensus on the best screen for this. I want to avoid the xps panel because of the auto brightness / CABC. Is there a perfect panel for this build?
Right now I'd say B133HAN04.6 for ease of fitting and lack of CABC. Got one in the mail, didn't test it yet though.

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#171 Post by evening_hunger » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:03 am

I have B133HAN04.6. It kicks [censored], has great brightness and wide color gamut. It's also antiglare and has no automatic brightness control. Problem is, it has a connector on the "wrong side", so you need to work around this somehow...
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#172 Post by redbluerat » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:40 am

evening_hunger wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:03 am
I have B133HAN04.6. It kicks [censored], has great brightness and wide color gamut. It's also antiglare and has no automatic brightness control. Problem is, it has a connector on the "wrong side", so you need to work around this somehow...
How did you overcome this? Extension cable? Also, do you need to trim the hinges to get this panel in?

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#173 Post by apala4 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:49 am

redbluerat wrote:
evening_hunger wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:03 am
I have B133HAN04.6. It kicks [censored], has great brightness and wide color gamut. It's also antiglare and has no automatic brightness control. Problem is, it has a connector on the "wrong side", so you need to work around this somehow...
How did you overcome this? Extension cable? Also, do you need to trim the hinges to get this panel in?
I've ordered pcb kit on taobao and it came with long lcd cable. And yes I had to cut hinges to fit that very lcd.

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#174 Post by boutch55555 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:36 pm

Those are the extensions I used (needs 2 for nitrocaster's board). evening_hunger recently got the wrong part when ordering those though. Make sure they ship part HQ-LED30-156 if going that route. Those are not needed if you go with the taobao's boards, like this one.

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#175 Post by evening_hunger » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:08 am

redbluerat wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:40 am
evening_hunger wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:03 am
I have B133HAN04.6. It kicks [censored], has great brightness and wide color gamut. It's also antiglare and has no automatic brightness control. Problem is, it has a connector on the "wrong side", so you need to work around this somehow...
How did you overcome this? Extension cable? Also, do you need to trim the hinges to get this panel in?
As boutch55555 said, I was sent a wrong extension/sideswitcher cable first. However, my x220/320 is my primary driver with zero alternative, so I just *had* to put this laptop together. Therefore, first I drilled a channel through entire laptop that hosted this cable in such way, that it reached the connector (i.e. Nitrocaster's board) anyway . Don't try this at home though - the EDP cable in this solution is routed in such way that it folds together with the lid when you close it (as it does not pass through the hinge). You could even feel, when closing the lid, that the cable is being bent, as it was just harder to close the laptop. Thus, is was my priority to undo this workaround ASAP, as it was only a matter of time this cable would break.
Edit: a bit more about this workaround. I decided to describe it as, after all, it does enable the use of B133HAN04.6 with Nitro's board so somebody might get crazy enough to try it. The way it is done is the following. You need to drill a notch in the bezel edge, where it contacs the lid (in a complete machine, this is somewhere above the ThinkVantage button). Route the edp out of the screen assembly through there. Then, drill a small notch in the adjacent location in the keyboard bed/bezel (it's also plastic, so easy), so that you can let the cable inside the body. At this point, the edp cable is already below the keyboard. You can make additional notches in the keyboard bed (not the keyboard itself!), so that the cable eventually reaches the connector on the converter board. I also used some black scotchtape in the location where the edp cable had to bend (exactly where it's outside the body, which is around 3-4mm). The whole thing is barely visible from the outside, but as said above it has this cable bending problem. Besides, the keyboard, in an assembled machine, sits on this cable pressing it to the magnesium alloy cage of the laptop. Also, not nice.

Having removed this workaround, I basically was left with an ugly hole in the screen bezel. I used a black epoxy mass (aka liquid metal) to fill that up, some scotchtape as a 'casting form'. Now, there's no trace of it.
Some time later I was sent a correct HQ-LED30-156 connector/extension/sideswitcher (Many thanks to boutch55555 for the part number! ) by the Czech shop SEMA-FOR ( this exact part ). It seems more expensive than the Chinese one (no wonder, they had to import it), however I'm in Europe so it was actually pretty cheap as postage was low.
Today, I put this connector to work - just finished 20 minutes ago. I used only one connector/extension - it is sufficient, although not the most elegant as you need to fold it. [It "extends" the edp cable ...outside the laptop, in other words the extension is in wrong direction when installed onto this panel. Hence the fold.] But finally I can have the edp cable passing as intended in the Bible, so through the hinge.

That reminds me. Whether using AUO B133HAN04.6 or anything else of 13.3'' size, we just stick the panel to the lid with two-sided tape or some other magic trick. I just found myself in a position of needing to ..un-stick it, and believe me, I was super happy I used "only" four pieces of Pattex adhesive strip . I'm not selling this stuff nor working for Pattex, but this [censored] holds so strong, you could build planes with it. I almost destroyed the panel trying to take it off the lid. After the HQ-LED30-156 was correctly installed , I only used two pieces of Pattex to put it back :)

Anyhow, I still wholeheartedly recommend this panel.
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#176 Post by evening_hunger » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:24 pm

Oh by the way, I'm looking for the color profile for AUO B133HAN04.6 in icc or icm format. If anyone has a colorimeter, or knows somebody... For the moment, I tried to find it using all search engines existing, no joy...
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#177 Post by boutch55555 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:57 pm

I have a friend that has one, I'll test the W11 vs AUO once I get the new panel. It just arrived in Canada, so it should be early next week.

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#178 Post by evening_hunger » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:42 pm

Oh man, if you're able to measure the AUO and get a profile, I'll send you a 6-pack of whatever-you-want:)
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