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What are the pitfalls of an X301?

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What are the pitfalls of an X301?

#1 Post by fourthree » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:41 am

Been looking to try a new laptop; curious about the X 00/01 thinkpads.

Here's something I can think of:

1. Batteries. Both the inside and the bay one. A T400s might be better in this regard; but I assume it'll suffer the same issues.
2. Panels. I'll admit to being greedy by looking at this (https://i.imgur.com/8wPIsr9.jpg, X301 with a 14.1 panel) but other than the 1280x800 AFFS panel out there, I don't think there are any good panels. ("Good" means the IPS family and good brightness as well, perhaps Xiph could help with this.)
3. HDD/SSD. Those 1.8" are rather uncommon from what I hear.

Probably the best argument against is that it's not such a huge bump from my X61s. Still, anything I missed or should know about?
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Re: What are the pitfalls of an X301?

#2 Post by shawross » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:03 am

If you need a battery to last longer than 2 hours a X301 is problematic.

The TN panel isn't great and to replace it with something better would be expensive.

The 1.8 inch drives can be adapted to use msata with 1.8 mini sata adapter

On top of this for today they only have enough CPU power to do general tasks.

Saying all that I still use one as a daily driver especially while I am on the road.


It will probably be slightly more powerful than the X61s and have a better GPU
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Re: What are the pitfalls of an X301?

#3 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:54 am

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Re: What are the pitfalls of an X301?

#4 Post by TPFanatic » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:31 pm

If you're looking for a nice thin'n'light classic Thinkpad that can handle modern tasks... you should skip T400s and T410s for having sucky screens and bad battery life too. You'll only get decent battery life starting with the T420s 6 cell + ultrabay, and then the T430s with all of Ivy Bridge's efficiency benefits, again 6 cell + ultrabay, the classic keyboard mod, and the IPS FHD mod.

If you care for the novelty, by all means pick up an X301, they're really cool especially the light up bits and A31 style volume buttons on the keyboard.
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Re: What are the pitfalls of an X301?

#5 Post by jaspen-meyer » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:54 pm

I tried making the same jump - from the x6xs to an x301. Other options I tried included: x62, x200, x200s, x201, x201s, x220, T420s.

The size and weight of the x301 is great. As is the construction. Keyboard has about the same spacing as the x61 - kb on my x301 is a bit too stiff for me. I don't have a battery. The huge problem I had with the machine was the low contrast TN screen. I am not sure if Xiph has leds for it - screen may be too thin, and even if he did it wouldn't help the contrast much. I didn't notice much, if any, performance boost between the SU9400 and the L7500.

The x200 with a P8600 or P8800 is worth considering.
The x220 with an IPS is another choice, if you can stand the screen format.
Still another option, would be keep the x61s but overhaul your software -- review the software you use and either find more effecient software or optimize the software you have.
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Re: What are the pitfalls of an X301?

#6 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:28 pm

I'd pick up an X301 for the keyboard. That keyboard is A DREAM to type on with snappy domes and a super comfy rubber palmrest.
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Re: What are the pitfalls of an X301?

#7 Post by fourthree » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:13 pm

jaspen-meyer wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:54 pm
Still another option, would be keep the x61s but overhaul your software -- review the software you use and either find more effecient software or optimize the software you have.
I'm on a fullscreen mode most of the time.

I guess my best bet would be an SXGA LED, but I have a feeling I'll have "good luck" finding one.

Thanks for the replies everyone, the X301 idea is trashed. 4:3 wins gain!
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Re: What are the pitfalls of an X301?

#8 Post by FryPpy » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:01 pm

jaspen-meyer wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:54 pm
I tried making the same jump - from the x6xs to an x301. Other options I tried included: x62, x200, x200s, x201, x201s, x220, T420s.
And how do you think about X62 as jump from X61?
Some other ThingPads to stand in line: T430u - ultrabook but with the chiclet keyboard (i don't know can it be cured with classic keyboard mod like on T430, T(W)530) and upcoming X210. Last week i have gotten my X210, have assembled it and have loved it. Fullsized keyboard with normal Esc and Del from X201 + WUXGA screen and last gen Core-i CPU.
Last couple of years X201 with IPS screen mod was my daly driver. And now i think i can move on further.

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Re: What are the pitfalls of an X301?

#9 Post by jaspen-meyer » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:31 pm

FryPpy wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:01 pm
And how do you think about X62 as jump from X61?
My computer work is on Linux doing low cpu-intensive tasks (command line, often on remote machines, coding and reading text on simple web pages). For these tasks there was no difference between the x61s and x62. No difference between the L2400 and the I5-5200u either (for those tasks).

The x62 has a huge performance boost over the x61 for video playback and rendering, and cpu-intensive computing.

When I need compute power, I turn on another machine and connect to it over ssh from my x60s.
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