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T400s keyboard on X200s?

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:20 am
by Dracon
Is it possible to attach a T400s keyboard to the X200s? At least connector looks te same. How about physical dimensions?

I really prefer the 2-row prefernce keys to 1-row.

Re: T400s keyboard on X200s?

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:55 am
by RealBlackStuff
Keyboards are supposedly interchangeable between 'regular' T400 and X200.
X200 and X200s use the same keyboards.
BUT: T400 and T400s use different keyboards.
So my guess is: NO, T400s and X200/X200s keyboards are NOT interchangeable.

Re: T400s keyboard on X200s?

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:45 am
by dr_st
RealBlackStuff wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:55 am
Keyboards are supposedly interchangeable between 'regular' T400 and X200.
You know, I don't think that's true. They are all different FRUs, they look different, and if one supposes they are still interchangeable, then I believe that the screw posts are different.

But regardless of that - you are right - the T400s keyboard is definitely different.

Now, keyboards may work if plugged in, if the connector is the same, but they would not fit properly in the chassis.

Re: T400s keyboard on X200s?

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:47 am
by Dracon
dr_st wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:45 am
RealBlackStuff wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:55 am
Keyboards are supposedly interchangeable between 'regular' T400 and X200.
You know, I don't think that's true. They are all different FRUs, they look different, and if one supposes they are still interchangeable, then I believe that the screw posts are different.

But regardless of that - you are right - the T400s keyboard is definitely different.

Now, keyboards may work if plugged in, if the connector is the same, but they would not fit properly in the chassis.
But if the dimensions are within millimeters, I don't see it as an obstacle. I have xx20-series keyboard on my X230 which is attached with 2 sided tape 😂

Re: T400s keyboard on X200s?

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:18 am
by dr_st
Physical dimensions should probably be close enough to work with, maybe with some small modifications. Of course without being properly secured with screws (you may have to physically remove the screw posts), the keyboard may wobble and not provide the same form feedback. But if the large Esc/Delete are more important to you, then, once again, I believe it can work, although I haven't tried.

Re: T400s keyboard on X200s?

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:52 am
by axur-delmeria
Looking at pics of the T400s, its keyboard looks to be the same as the T410/420, T510/520, W510/520, and X220 (big Del and Esc keys).

Re: T400s keyboard on X200s?

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:08 am
by TPFanatic
In my experience plugging a W500 keyboard in a T520:
Ultranav buttons are sized differently, the volume-power bar is dimensioned differently, and the Fn key didn't work. You'd best stick with an X200 / X201 (normal, s, Tablet) keyboard.

Re: T400s keyboard on X200s?

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:12 am
by Thinkpad4by3
If you want a T400s keyboard you could try an X220.

Re: T400s keyboard on X200s?

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:35 am
by Dracon
Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:12 am
If you want a T400s keyboard you could try an X220.
As I said on my previous post, I already have X230 with xx20 series keyboard. Also a T430 with xx20-keyboard.

But this time I'm looking for the best & lightweight machine for traveling purposes which can handle Libreboot.

Re: T400s keyboard on X200s?

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:09 pm
by TPFanatic
T400s keyboard will not physically fit and some keys won't work correctly.