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X230 a very strange story - lets troubleshoot!
X230 a very strange story - lets troubleshoot!
Hej Thinkpeople!
I encountered a very strange failure in my X230 yesterday. I would like to describe the story:
I traveled several kilometers by car with my Thinkpad in a sleeve. After a couple of days I turned the X230 on and the screen was turning on and off. Kind of randomly. I thought maybe the connection to the display connector was loose or something with my LCD screen was not working correctly. But when I started the OS I recognized that the laptop tried constantly to go to sleep.
It was like staying logged in and after a random amount of time the Laptop was logging of automatically. Even when I did not touch anything. It was not predictable (from 5sec - 5min).
I assume the reason for the behavior of my screen and the flickering was not caused by a faulty connection. Anyways I wanted to figure out if all connections are fine, if the RAM or the SSD or something else was faulty.
So I tried to start the X230 today. Nothing happened. Only the green back battery light turned on when I plugged the power cable in. Hmmm.
I opened the Laptop, tried first with no RAM, then one DIMM in one slot, one DIMM in the other slot etc. RAM was working in another device perfectly. Still nothing.
I swapped the keyboard for another one (classic keyboard mod). Still nothing.
I put out the SSD and all unnecessary connections.
Waited for 1 hour without CMOS connected. Nothing. Swapped the CMOS. Nothing.
Connected only the power cable without CMOS. Nothing.
Still no beep, black screen, no fan...
I reassembled everything and still nothing.
Now I am asking for support. What should I do next?
I opened around 20 Thinkpads in my life and everytime I fixed the failure they got. This time is different. I am really ashamed because I did not thought about the Thinkpad in my car for two nights and it was quite cold during the night (3-5°C) and during the day it was sunny (10-15°C). Maybe some moisture destroyed some components at my mainboard. Hmmm. I did not turn the machine on for another seven days after this happened. Then the ramdomly going to sleep started yesterday and today it is kind of dead.
Thank you very much!
I encountered a very strange failure in my X230 yesterday. I would like to describe the story:
I traveled several kilometers by car with my Thinkpad in a sleeve. After a couple of days I turned the X230 on and the screen was turning on and off. Kind of randomly. I thought maybe the connection to the display connector was loose or something with my LCD screen was not working correctly. But when I started the OS I recognized that the laptop tried constantly to go to sleep.
It was like staying logged in and after a random amount of time the Laptop was logging of automatically. Even when I did not touch anything. It was not predictable (from 5sec - 5min).
I assume the reason for the behavior of my screen and the flickering was not caused by a faulty connection. Anyways I wanted to figure out if all connections are fine, if the RAM or the SSD or something else was faulty.
So I tried to start the X230 today. Nothing happened. Only the green back battery light turned on when I plugged the power cable in. Hmmm.
I opened the Laptop, tried first with no RAM, then one DIMM in one slot, one DIMM in the other slot etc. RAM was working in another device perfectly. Still nothing.
I swapped the keyboard for another one (classic keyboard mod). Still nothing.
I put out the SSD and all unnecessary connections.
Waited for 1 hour without CMOS connected. Nothing. Swapped the CMOS. Nothing.
Connected only the power cable without CMOS. Nothing.
Still no beep, black screen, no fan...
I reassembled everything and still nothing.
Now I am asking for support. What should I do next?
I opened around 20 Thinkpads in my life and everytime I fixed the failure they got. This time is different. I am really ashamed because I did not thought about the Thinkpad in my car for two nights and it was quite cold during the night (3-5°C) and during the day it was sunny (10-15°C). Maybe some moisture destroyed some components at my mainboard. Hmmm. I did not turn the machine on for another seven days after this happened. Then the ramdomly going to sleep started yesterday and today it is kind of dead.
Thank you very much!
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Re: X230 a very strange story - lets troubleshoot!
Begin with removing the battery.
Then try and boot in Safe Mode (press F8 at cold boot).
If you run W10, make sure it is fully switched off first: https://www.isumsoft.com/windows-10/2-w ... tdown.html
Try another HDD/SSD drive with a different OS.
Also, use an external CD/DVD-drive and run some Life-Linux to see if the problem persists.
Then try and boot in Safe Mode (press F8 at cold boot).
If you run W10, make sure it is fully switched off first: https://www.isumsoft.com/windows-10/2-w ... tdown.html
Try another HDD/SSD drive with a different OS.
Also, use an external CD/DVD-drive and run some Life-Linux to see if the problem persists.
Lovely day for a Guinness! (The Real Black Stuff)
Re: X230 a very strange story - lets troubleshoot!
Thank you for your reply and recommendations. The Laptop is not starting at all. No bootlogo, no fan movement, no beep... really nothing. Only the Battery LED is going on, when I plug in the power cable. Even without a hard disk nothing happened. I also tried to do a reset by taking out the CMOS for 1 hour. Still nothing.RealBlackStuff wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:57 amBegin with removing the battery.
Then try and boot in Safe Mode (press F8 at cold boot).
If you run W10, make sure it is fully switched off first: https://www.isumsoft.com/windows-10/2-w ... tdown.html
Try another HDD/SSD drive with a different OS.
Also, use an external CD/DVD-drive and run some Life-Linux to see if the problem persists.
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Re: X230 a very strange story - lets troubleshoot!
Try standard "reset": remove charger, battery, CMOS-battery, HDD/SSD, RAM, wifi card, any USB stuff.
Just to make sure, remove/reseat the keyboard connector.
Then press and hold down the power button for ~20 seconds.
Attach only charger, try to start, it should beep 1-3-3-1 if any life left in the motherboard.
If not, look for another mobo.
If beep, disconnect charger, add 1 RAM and try boot.
Move RAM to other slot, try again.
Repeat with other RAM.
Repeat with both RAM.
Add 1 other item, try again, etc.
Just to make sure, remove/reseat the keyboard connector.
Then press and hold down the power button for ~20 seconds.
Attach only charger, try to start, it should beep 1-3-3-1 if any life left in the motherboard.
If not, look for another mobo.
If beep, disconnect charger, add 1 RAM and try boot.
Move RAM to other slot, try again.
Repeat with other RAM.
Repeat with both RAM.
Add 1 other item, try again, etc.
Lovely day for a Guinness! (The Real Black Stuff)
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Re: X230 a very strange story - lets troubleshoot!
If it doesn't give a 1-3-3-1 error beep code when powered up without any RAM installed, it's very much dead.
Planned Purchase: T480s i5-8350 FHD Touch
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Impulse Buy: Thinkpad not named for safety reasons
RIP: X220 4291-C91 X61 7676-A24 760XD-U9E
Re: X230 a very strange story - lets troubleshoot!
Yes. The X230 does not do anything. No beep without RAM. I thought the same. It is pretty much dead. Any options? Taking the mainboard out and test it without anything attached?
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Re: X230 a very strange story - lets troubleshoot!
Just replace it.
Lovely day for a Guinness! (The Real Black Stuff)
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