Page 3 of 4

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:22 pm
by pianowizard
ducky2802 wrote:but what would have me very happy would be an x100 class... 11" or 10" tablet with sub 2 lbs weight and bordering on sub 1" thk.
In other words, a Thinkpad version of the Sony TZ series, but even lighter? Yep, I would like that even more than the X300!

But I still find it hard to believe that the X300 can weigh 0.2 lbs less than the Sony TZ even though it's much bigger and has more features. I agree with K. Eng that this looks a little like a hoax, or at least the weight has been mistyped, e.g. it should be 3.5 lbs rather than 2.5 lbs. 3.5 lbs would still be fairly light, a little lighter than the X31/32 actually.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:50 pm
by andyP
I agree with pianowizard, I thought it weighs about 1,4Kg which would be about 3.3lbs.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:57 pm
by ducky2802
hehehe... a thinkpad tz edition! I really like the form factor a lot and think that it is much more... um "marketable"?... than a 13.3". Not to say I wouldnt find a high res screen and ultralight for its size very tempting (like the mb air), but when its all said and done, a full size T would offer more performance for less money, and a X is plenty portable without being too much "heavier", so my need for a large X quickly diminishes. But a smaller X... with touchscreen.. now that I would buy in a second!

But back to the original prompt, I think like the air, it is entirely possible to have a 3lb lappy with 13.3" screen and optical drive... especially with what appears to be, extensive use of cfrp. And one of those mtron ssd's would be icing on the cake!

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:11 pm
by pianowizard
ducky2802 wrote:hehehe... a thinkpad tz edition! I really like the form factor a lot and think that it is much more... um "marketable"?... than a 13.3".
I think that's true in Asia and Europe, but in the States, most people don't like tiny screens. 13.3" sells better than 11.1" or even 12.1" in the U.S.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:02 pm
by JonathanGennick
andyP wrote: with the larger battery the keyboard will be "flat".
If true, that's fantastic. I'd want the larger battery, and I much prefer a flat keyboard. Looks like I'll be happy on both counts.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:23 pm
by jketzetera
K. Eng wrote:This looks like a hoax to me. The specs are too good to be true, and everyone from here to Ars Technica is absolutely drooling over it.

Does anyone know if 13.3" displays are even available at that high resolution? That and some of the language in the slides leaves me skeptical.
I agree that it looks like a hoax. My caveat is the CPU, which seems to be too good to be true.

Unfortunately I cannot post HTML tables in this forum. I therefore refer to my post @notebookreview

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpos ... stcount=84

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:24 am
by daba
Looks like a few stores are already accepting pre-orders:

http://www.google.com/products?q=lenovo ... h+Products

If it was $2000 I'd buy it.

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:29 pm
by Trekk69
Thanks for the update daba

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:29 am
by jayk
Amazing... there must be a dozen hits on Google Shopping for this machine, yet there is still NO official info out there on it. Buy.com lists no less than four different configurations/prices:

1. TOPSELLER X300 SL7100 2GB 64GB SYSTDVDRW 13.3-WXGA+ BT BFP XPP
Our Low Price: $2,799.00
Availability: Pre-Order Now: Get Yours First!

2. TOPSELLER X300 SL7100 2GB 64GB SYSTDVDRW 13.3-WXGA+ BT BFP XPP
Our Low Price: $2,999.00
Availability: Temporarily sold out. Order now to get in line.

3. X300 SL7100 2GB/64SS DVR 13W BT F IC WXP
Our Low Price: $2,873.99
Availability: Temporarily sold out. Order now to get in line.

4. X300 SL7100 2GB/64SS DVR 13W BT F IC V WXP
Our Low Price: $3,079.99
Availability: Temporarily sold out. Order now to get in line.


I'm guessing:
BT = bluetooth
WXP/XPP = Win XP
SYSTDVDRW = DVD R/W drive
13.3-WXGA+/13W = two different screens?
Other codes = ???

PCSuperStore website says "After your order is placed,
Allow approximately 2-3 weeks for delivery." (And they're advertising one of the lowest prices.)

I'll have to call one or two of these places tomorrow and see if I can get any more info.

I'd have to think something 'official' will be coming down any day now.

- Jay

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:49 am
by pianowizard
Wow, so even the cheapest model costs $2.8K. I would never ever walk out of my house with a laptop like this. It's too much to lose if I get mugged.

I'll stick with my $620 HP nc2400.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:07 am
by qviri
jayk wrote:I'll have to call one or two of these places tomorrow and see if I can get any more info.
You won't. They've put up the "machine" for "sale" because they know people will be looking for it and they hope it'll drive traffic to items they actually do have in stock.

Lenovo isn't Apple, they don't announce things for availability in two weeks.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:31 pm
by pxa270
If those prices and specs are in the ballpark, there's going to be many disappointed people around. The cheapest model is over $2600 and has an SL7100, which is a 1.2Ghz Core 2 Duo. I think I'll stick with an X61s...

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:00 pm
by Trekk69
Way too expensive for sure!
At least, like all new products, it will eventually come down in price. But as we all know, when that happens, something new and greater will be available for just as expensive!

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:42 pm
by ajkula66
Although I've predicted this price range in my previous post, I'd wait for Lenovo to actually start offering them instead of trusting online retailers...I'm very skeptical that any of these have actually sold anything related to X300 series...

Just my $0.02....

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:15 pm
by gator
ajkula66 wrote:I'm very skeptical that any of these have actually sold anything related to X series...
There, fixed it for ya! :D

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:25 pm
by jamesdin
:roll: X300 specs on some of those websites [1] are based on ThinkPad-T43 - 2668HB7.

Anybody knows approx. release date for new X series?

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:52 am
by andyP
jamesdin wrote:
..snip..
Anybody knows approx. release date for new X series?
I have it on good authority that the X300 will be officially announced, here in Germany, on the 26. Feb.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:59 am
by beeblebrox
So, on notebookreview a guy said he met with a Lenovo sales rep and he said that X300 only comes with SSD disks.

Hmm, and you have to choose once whether you want a battery or a DVD burner. No Ultrabay superslim bay.

Somehow the whole things looks far more expensive than a Macbook HotAir.

At Ars Electronica they tested the SSD vs the 1.8" HDD and found no big difference.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:17 am
by Trekk69
beeblebrox wrote:So, on notebookreview a guy said he met with a Lenovo sales rep and he said that X300 only comes with SSD disks.

Hmm, and you have to choose once whether you want a battery or a DVD burner. No Ultrabay superslim bay.

Somehow the whole things looks far more expensive than a Macbook HotAir.

At Ars Electronica they tested the SSD vs the 1.8" HDD and found no big difference.
Thanks for continuing to feed in the info regarding the X300.

If people are interested, heres the link for the Macbook Air with SSD tested for performance: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware ... view.ars/1

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:14 am
by tfflivemb2
pianowizard wrote:Wow, so even the cheapest model costs $2.8K. I would never ever walk out of my house with a laptop like this. It's too much to lose if I get mugged.

I'll stick with my $620 HP nc2400.
Back in the day, laptops used to cost $2500-3500...

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:38 am
by pianowizard
tfflivemb2 wrote:Back in the day, laptops used to cost $2500-3500...
For that reason, I didn't start using laptops until Aug 2002, even though I have been using desktops since 1990.

This X300 makes the Macbook Air look cheap!

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:35 am
by ulrich.von.lich
About a couple of months ago, I bought a second hand A31p, which was originally purchased in May 2002 at the price of 5300€. I think at that time, euro was cheaper than American dollar. But 5300EUR was still a lot of money. I always believe high price is associated with high quality and cutting edge technologies. I hope it will be the case for the X300.

AndyP, any news on the pricing in Europe?

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:58 pm
by andyP
ulrich.von.lich

only pure speculation, nothing definitive. All sources are being "tapped" on a regular basis. I even went as far as trying to order one, but they wouldn't let me :(
As soon as I get some reliable infos from credible sources and am not sworn to secrecy I'll post here. If I'm sworn to secrecy I'm sure another member will come accross the same information, somehow :wink:

beeblebrox wrote:
Hmm, and you have to choose once whether you want a battery or a DVD burner. No Ultrabay superslim bay.

see the penultimate post one page back - dvd fixed, place for 2nd battery.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:59 pm
by ajkula66
ulrich.von.lich wrote:
About a couple of months ago, I bought a second hand A31p, which was originally purchased in May 2002 at the price of 5300€. I think at that time, euro was cheaper than American dollar. But 5300EUR was still a lot of money.
Euro was not cheaper than dollar in 2002...and, somewhere around that time I've dished almost $4,000 for a new hi-end A31p...and in case anyone wonders, it hadn't been made in USA, but Mexico...so, the price in France was not that outrageous...

We've just gotten spoiled by Lenovo sales recently here in the States, that's all...and by the idea that you can buy a new laptop (or shall I say craptop) for 500-600 dollars/euros/whatever...but the purchase of a new ThinkPad has never been a cheap sport to participate in....

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:56 am
by lightlamp
slides were posted on this page today or yesterday. does anyone now where that thread went?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:26 am
by Puppy
Lenovo ThinkPad X300 Gets a Price, Available for Pre-Order
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4244

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:36 pm
by Dead1nside
lightlamp wrote:slides were posted on this page today or yesterday. does anyone now where that thread went?
Deleted by admin for some reason or other, or so the notification and the absence of the page leads to me believe.

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:52 pm
by fuscob
Just found this on CDW-G for the TopSeller 6478-1TU:

Notes:
This product hasn't started to sell yet. We expect this product will be available around Tuesday, February 26, 2008.


Hope CDW is right :D

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:41 am
by tfflivemb2
Dead1nside wrote:
lightlamp wrote:slides were posted on this page today or yesterday. does anyone now where that thread went?
Deleted by admin for some reason or other, or so the notification and the absence of the page leads to me believe.
No, it wasn't. It might have been moved...or deleted by the poster. It is not our policy to just delete threads....worse case scenario, a thread might be moved out of site to confer, but I don't believe that this is the case.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:31 am
by KristianJ
tfflivemb2 wrote: No, it wasn't. It might have been moved...or deleted by the poster. It is not our policy to just delete threads....worse case scenario, a thread might be moved out of site to confer, but I don't believe that this is the case.
I remember it seemed to disappear and reappear a couple of days ago. However I doubt that ryengineer would have a reason to delete it, because it was very informative indeed. But when I click on the link to that thread in my browser history, it says the thread doesn't exist...