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I want a smaller T61 with a real Core2 at 2.4ghz or more and discrete graphics? I mean the X300 is a sweet form factor, it just seems like a dog compared to a T61 or even the X61.

Plus $2800 for something half as powerful as a $1200 T61 is tough pill for me to swallow. Maybe I am asking too much, but the ULV and SSD are not needed for my usage and add a lot of $$$ to the price.

does it seem like a dog on paper or have you actually used one?   coming from a 2.4GHz-T7700-equipped T61p, i can say from experience that the X300 is far from being a dog.

$2800 for something half as powerful as a $1200 T61 makes perfect sense when you consider that the X300 is thinner, lighter, lasts longer on batteries, has greater wireless connectivity, has an SSD, has an LED display, and has significantly better build quality in every respect.   it's not an apples to apples comparison.

your best bet is to either wait and see what happens with the upcoming T-series or to spend $1200 on a T61p now.   the X-series models are built for battery life with integrated graphics and will likely be this way for many years to come.

hope that helps.

They make a 2.4 C2D X61 with compareable features sans the SSD in the $1200 range. I don't see how the X300 is twice as expensive to build. I suppose discrete graphics is a pipe dream.

I love the 13.3 widescreen form factor, I just don't want the same performance compromises I have had in the past with my 10 and 11" true ultra portables. Integrated graphics and ULV processors blow in my experiance. IMO the X300 is more of a "really thin and light" than a true ultra portable in overall size. I am sure it is best in breed, but a guy can wish for more.............

I am somewhat in a similar situation since I have to decide (right now) whether to buy the X300 before summer, or do a very complicated red tape writing and paperwork to make the funds allocated to this buy to be available till December and then bet that with the arrival of Montevina there will be an upgrade of the X300 with the new cores and the new integrated graphic (GMA X4500 instead of X3100). (Also 128Gb of SSD would be welcome.

Does any insider on this forum has any suggestion? I would like to avoid to do a lot of paperwork to buy in December the same X300 I can buy right now. TIA.

Nubulin wrote:They make a 2.4 C2D X61 with compareable features sans the SSD in the $1200 range. I don't see how the X300 is twice as expensive to build.

The X300's SSD is $1000.

Nubulin wrote:Integrated graphics and ULV processors blow in my experiance.

The integrated graphics on the X300 isn't terrible, but it definitely isn't a gamer's machine. The CPU in the X300 isn't an ULV. It is a LV CPU, but it has the full speed front side bus and 4 MB of cache. So the clock speed is low, but the processing ablility hasn't been neutured like the ULV CPUs. I've owned several ultraportables (TZ, D400, TZ, U1, OQO2, to name a few) and the X300 doesn't feel lethargic or slow in the least bit.