X302 anytime?

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canfraggle · #1 Post by **canfraggle** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:14 am

Has anyone got any news on the X301's successor? I've been using my X300 since it came out and I'm getting a bit itchy for an upgrade.

csv96 · #2 Post by **csv96** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:31 pm

Not anytime soon. Montevina chipset was announced in July 2008 and X301 just came out in September. Calpella is expected in Q3 2009 so I wouldn't expect a new X30x model until end of the year. The most we can hope for in the next few months is a minor CPU refresh.

beaker · #3 Post by **beaker** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:15 am

According to this article Intel will refresh Montevina after April. The X302 will probably get the SU9600 1.6 GHz ULV. Here is the intel roadmap for 2009.

beaker · #4 Post by **beaker** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:45 pm

I am getting ready to buy either a X301/X302. I actually spent time looking at Intel's roadmap for April. They have a SU9600 (1.6GHz, 3MB cache, FSB800) that would fit into the 24W envelope.

Since Intel released GM47 Express Chipset this quarter, I thought there might be a GS47 but I don't see that anywhere in the roadmap. The real disappointment in all of this is that the intel X11 drivers for linux/*bsd don't allow laptop displayport->monitor displayport connection (digital) playback. Its still digital -> analog. (Displayport ->{vga,lvds}

beaker · #5 Post by **beaker** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:34 pm

According to article the SU9600 will be released at the end of March. X302 should then be released in April, given that Sony has already announced a laptop that uses this cpu...

ThinkP · #6 Post by **ThinkP** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:31 pm

intel releases the SU9600 today.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/25/inte ... w-laptops/

beaker · #7 Post by **beaker** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:59 pm

Did you read your hyperlinked article?

No word on where these chips will be first making an appearance...

Then when you click on

READ

at the bottom of the article, it is a link to the webpage I originally linked to which states that SU9600 will be released at the end of March.

amardeep · #8 Post by **amardeep** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:47 am

"Intel will soon release two new ultra-low voltage (ULV) processors designed for ultra-thin notebooks.

According to DigiTimes, the company will unveil the 1.6GHz Core 2 Duo SU9600 and the 1.4GHz Core 2 Solo SU3500 next month."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/26/intel_ulvs/
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090225PD216.html

hiryu · #9 Post by **hiryu** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:26 am

Very nice article! Thanks!

rezmout · #10 Post by **rezmout** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:29 pm

I ma very keen on the X302 or whatever they might call it at Lenovo.. Have been following intel and other part manufacturors for a while to see if I can perdict the release for the new series, but havent had much luck!
Everyone thinks the upgrade is due since it has been a while that the X301 has been released, plus the SU9600 is already out and you can get it in sony vaio TT now. I personally think the Lonovo would last longer than vaio and trying to force myself to wait for it, but hae to admit the vaio TT looks great and had a lot more to ofer than the X301 or even X302 if it comes out any time soon.
Do you guys think there might be a chance to have X302 with the features of the vaio TT? full HD1080p, blur ray, 9 hours battery life, SD card reader,... the list goes on.. I mean come on Lenovo, we need much more than just a durable laptop which lacks greatly on features...
Additionally with the whole profit decrease and senior executive changes at the Lenovo, its very unlicky that our wih will be granted anytime soon, I hope they listen to us..

beaker · #11 Post by **beaker** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:22 pm

X302 could not do HD 1080p because it is currently offered with a 1440x900 resolution. You would need 1920x1080 resolution for 1080p.

#12 Post by **archer6** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:42 pm

rezmout wrote:<snip> the SU9600 is already out and you can get it in sony vaio TT now. I personally think the Lonovo would last longer than vaio and trying to force myself to wait for it, but hae to admit the vaio TT looks great and had a lot more to ofer than the X301 or even X302 if it comes out any time soon. Do you guys think there might be a chance to have X302 with the features of the vaio TT? <snip>

Having had an X300 and now using an X301 I could not agree more. However I also have had my share of Sony VAIO's over the last 6 years, and have found them to be very beautifully styled, yet lacking in reliability and support. I have the current VAIO (VGN TT-190 CTO) with the SU 9400 chip, and it's a pretty nice machine, and yet I find that I use the X301 much more as it's simply so far superior from an ergonomic standpoint. Yes the display is not as nice, which brings me to the next comment and that is I wish that Lenovo would wake up and get serious about offering us some excellent displays to go along with what is otherwise a great laptop.

The sad fact is that if Lenovo does not do something soon about their displays, I believe that some of the very loyal user base may indeed move away from the brand.

rezmout · #13 Post by **rezmout** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:43 am

I couldnt agree with you more. As I said I ma very keen on the next generationg of the X301, and not bothered much with the full 1080p HD od blueray, however having a painfully slow processor and a mediocare motherboeard, with onboard sound and graphic cards is certainly not tot the way to go..

Lets wish people from Lenovo get the X302 a proper make over..

ssd_thinkpad · #14 Post by **ssd_thinkpad** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:40 am

The x30x series is designed to have all build-in as small as possible. In this series, I bet there will never be a dedicated sound or graphic card appear in future.

beaker · #15 Post by **beaker** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:35 am

As I indicated earlier, I want a new X302 laptop. I finally called Lenovo this morning, and asked a sales representative when the X302 will be released. He said he had not heard anything and suggested based on his past experience with Thinkpad releases that it could be a "few months before the release of any new X Series."

With all the Ecoupons, "Black Friday, Everyday all day!" and 48 hour sales, maybe Lenovo has a HUGE backlog of inventory they have to get rid of? We know they got rid of their CEO and 10-20% of the employees already.

I want a X302 with a "Flexview" quality screen. If I can't get one, I am going to buy an Apple.

ssd_thinkpad · #16 Post by **ssd_thinkpad** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:19 pm

beaker wrote:I want a X302 with a "Flexview" quality screen. If I can't get one, I am going to buy an Apple.

Apples only non-glossy notebook is the 17 inch macbook pro. And the Macbook Air really can get hot. Otherwise, Apple is on the rise

rezmout · #17 Post by **rezmout** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:41 pm

I agree with you beaker, with all the changes at Lenovo its hard to imagine they will bring any series soon let alone cramping all you get in sony, in the X302.
I wish it would happen but its very unlikely, have to say thoug, I dont think apple is any good at all, its just for whom to show off: look at me i have an apple that yu see in almost evey hollywood movie these days.. for me its between the sony vaio TT or Z and X302..

beaker · #18 Post by **beaker** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:25 pm

My reason for Thinkpads prior to now was the quality of the hardware. My X32 is built like a tank and I can run any OS on it (Freebsd, Linux, Plan9, OpenBSD, and Windows). The build quality was one factor, and the hardware support for ANY OS out there was second.

Now that Apple is a UNIX OS, it is really attractive to people like myself. I am in the minority of web developers that I know who still uses a Thnkpad; everyone I know has entered the "Apple reality distortion field" and has an Apple. If I had all the money in the world I would still buy a Thinkpad. A Thinkpad with an X32 keyboard/Flexview screen/X302 chipset (ULV) optimized for battery life/high resolution 1440x900 13.3 inch display/DockingStation. If they can put new computers into typewriters, radios, clocks, furniture. why can't we put new chipsets into old Thinkpads? Imagine the butterfly thinkpad/S30 with intel core 2 duo/nehalem processor...

rezmout- Other members of the forum (archer6?) have said that the Vaio keyboards are not that great for prolonged hours of typing. You should search for "Vaio" using the Search function to confirm this. Don't take my word for it. I didn't look into getting a Sony Vaio laptops for this very reason.

#19 Post by **archer6** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:49 pm

beaker wrote:<snip> With all the Ecoupons, "Black Friday, Everyday all day!" and 48 hour sales, maybe Lenovo has a HUGE backlog of inventory they have to get rid of? We know they got rid of their CEO and 10-20% of the employees already. I want a X302 with a "Flexview" quality screen. If I can't get one, I am going to buy an Apple.<snip>

While it could be said that the current trend at Lenovo with all the sales is to get rid of a huge inventory, I can assure you that is not the case. What is the case, is that Lenovo is finally beginning to "get it". And become very aggressive in their marketing campaign. One of the first smart moves they have made in awhile. However you will notice we still have active threads in every subforum here that talks about delays in shipping and availability. This shows that Lenovo does _not_ have an over supply, which is also a brilliant move.

Conversely when one goes to the Apple online store the MacBook and MacBook Pro models all are listed as shipping within just 24 hours. What does that tell you? And again, just a friendly reminder that I am not anti Apple as I just spent over $3,000 for a MacBook Pro with the same processor, ram and hard drive as my ThinkPad W500 for which I only paid half as much. So when it comes to Apple vs Thinkpad, the ThinkPad brings performance, value, reliability and a host of features not even offered on the MBP. Such as the broadband card, more video memory, and a list of other smaller features that came on mine.

Where Apple once again shot themselves in the foot is by "dumbing down" the MBP with a super glossy, highly reflective glass display which makes a better mirror than a transparent protective cover over the display. I know, I own one. So I might caution you to take one very hard look at Apples laptops before you take the plunge. While I was well aware of what I was getting into, I also had a built in safety net, which I just took advantage of. My next door neighbor belongs to the "Mac Addicts" that will buy anything at any price as long as it's equipped with an Apple logo. Thus I had the chance to try it out and get out from under it, very easily.

Finally don't get me wrong I'm not speaking of ThinkPads as the holy grail, but they are far from finished. They simply need to get back on track and begin to offer machines like the T60 where the display is commensurate with the rest of the computer.

Cheers...

FragrantHead · #20 Post by **FragrantHead** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:13 pm

beaker wrote:I want a X302 with a "Flexview" quality screen. If I can't get one, I am going to buy an Apple.

I have a 13" unibody Macbook (need it for work), perhaps the closest Apple in functionality to an X30x. I would describe the screen as sharp and colorful, but also horribly reflective with inaccurate, occasionally gaudy color (skin tones) and bad contrast. The keyboard is also fairly horrible, the keys flat and slippery with not a good feel to them. The only ergonomic standout is the multi-touch trackpad.

rezmout · #21 Post by **rezmout** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:06 pm

the apple's macbook air and the sony's vaio TT and Z series are all good laptops depending on what you looking for really.. for the price of the so called X302 (if it comes out) you can get a fully customised vaio TT (full HD screen, blue ray, SSD, card reader, almost 10 hours of battery, ..) or even the new mac book air with the graphic card, SSD, backlit keys, etc... my reason for waiting to get the X30x is trusting its durability, software and hardware design. the X301 has passed a military test which is aways good to know, as i'm not a great person to look after my laptop and maintain it, so knowing th machine would work for years to come is certainly a blessing. on the other hand though, i dont think i would wait much longer for it, plus sony has great financial deals which makes te purchase alot easier. so i guess what i'm saying is i hope the X302 comes out in May or I go for the sony...

#22 Post by **archer6** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:35 pm

FragrantHead wrote:I have a 13" unibody Macbook (need it for work), perhaps the closest Apple in functionality to an X30x. I would describe the screen as sharp and colorful, but also horribly reflective with inaccurate, occasionally gaudy color (skin tones) and bad contrast. The keyboard is also fairly horrible, the keys flat and slippery with not a good feel to them. The only ergonomic standout is the multi-touch trackpad.

I concur. My latest Apple is a Unibody MacBook Pro @ 15.4", the reflections off the display take away all the benefits of the 300 nit brightness and usefulness of a display which if offered in matte, would be outstanding. In fact, there is a hint that Apple may cave into the reality that it's losing many potential customers with this mirror of a display. The clue is if one looks at the CTO list for the new 17" both Glossy & Matte are offered. Thus I believe it may only be a short period of time before Apple offers the 15.4" MBP in matte. Especially since the Europeans are far more discerning, demanding and vocal than the Americans when it comes to this issue. MBP sales are way off the mark in the UK, since Apple discontinued the matte screen. And in the reviews, they are not afraid to speak out and voice their preferences for matte. Lemmings they are not, and it's very encouraging.

Cheers...

perplex · #23 Post by **perplex** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:01 am

So the consensus regarding X302 is atleast 6 months? Maybe just before Christmas.

I'll be looking for another X30x near end of the year, but I might just pick up another X300 as I have had no issues regarding speed. The screen is the only downside for me, which reminds me I'll need a X301 for the DVI so I can have a nice desktop monitor.

#24 Post by **archer6** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:34 am

rezmout wrote:<snip> i'm not a great person to look after my laptop and maintain it, so knowing th machine would work for years to come is certainly a blessing. on the other hand though, i dont think i would wait much longer for it, plus sony has great financial deals which makes te purchase alot easier. so i guess what i'm saying is i hope the X302 comes out in May or I go for the sony..<snip>.

Believe me I share your tendency to be lured into a Sony, so much so that I have bought several over the last few years. The most recent being the TT. And each time I do, just months later I'm sorry I did. From my experience, while the design and feature set one gets for the money is highly compelling, they simply do not have the durability, the overall reliability, (and I'm extremely careful, hence my collection of "like new" ThinkPads) nor do they have the overall quality they appear to have at first glance. If I had never owned a ThinkPad then I would be none the wiser.

rezmout · #25 Post by **rezmout** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:45 pm

I guess I have to go back to the original post here, is there any news on when the X302 will come out and what would be the most likely features and components? I am really keen on it but have not been able to gain any info on the release date of such machine..

#26 Post by **bill bolton** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:32 pm

rezmout wrote:is there any news on when the X302 will come out

No there is not.

In the present world financial climate, I personally expect not for a while.

Cheers,

Bill B.

#27 Post by **archer6** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:44 pm

With all I've read lately about the significant demand and sales in the Netbook sector, I would not be surprised if a new X302 is a long way off relative to product cycles of the past. More and more is written about Netbooks every day as I'm sure you've all noticed.

In fact I must say that I've been approached by more people, and asked more about my IdeaPad S10 Netbook than I ever expected. When I stop in a Starbucks for a coffee and a break from work, there is rarely a day when I'm not approached by someone asking about it. Simply amazing, and often annoying...

k3davis · #28 Post by **k3davis** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:27 am

bill bolton wrote: In the present world financial climate, I personally expect not for a while.

I don't doubt you're probably correct, but I confess disappointment. I'd like a mobile Nehalem in the X30x series this summer/autumn... or a model with a slightly more powerful CPU anyway... but I'm hoping at least to see an Intel price drop passed on to the X301, in case I can't wait. Probably when the Windows 7 "free upgrade" window opens, I'll jump.

(My trusty T42 is getting to that old-car stage...)

rezmout · #29 Post by **rezmout** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:26 pm

i emailed lenovo a few days ago asking about the possibilities of the X301 successor i.e. X302, and today i had a reply from them mentioning thee is absolutely no news on it. they een said that the X301 is a new machine!! i mea are the poeple at lenovo living in a different world to us?

sparta.rising · #30 Post by **sparta.rising** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:01 am

rezmout wrote:i emailed lenovo a few days ago asking about the possibilities of the X301 successor i.e. X302, and today i had a reply from them mentioning thee is absolutely no news on it. they een said that the X301 is a new machine!! i mea are the poeple at lenovo living in a different world to us?

No, they want to sell you an X301. They don't want you sitting on your wallet for 6 months and changing your mind.

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