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Just ordered my tablet today - with Windows 7 Professional 64, so yes Lenovo is now (or soon will be) shipping computers with the new OS. Also, note that there are advantages to getting the preload from Lenovo, as opposed to upgrading the OS yourself, according to LenovoBlogs. The Windows 7 Enhanced Experience is slightly different depending on whether you are using a retail OS with Lenovo drivers, an official Lenovo upgrade disk, or a pre-loaded copy.

And, more good news - the deep discounted prices from the last couple of weeks are still in play. Mine was discounted $760. I was afraid everything would go back to full price with the new OS launch, but that is not the case (today, at least).

But you forgot the fact that if you get Win 7 preloaded by Lenovo, it will have unnecessary Thinkvantage utilities that will drag down the performance of the machine.
Clean install is always better. After performing a clean install of windows 7, my boot time is 15 second, and shut down time is 3 second. Also, battery life is 8+ hours.

I've moved this question from wine 7 thread because it makes more sense here.

I bought an x200 on 21st and ticked the free w7 upgrade. Does that mean when it is delivered it will come with a separate set of w7 disks, or will it have the old vista disks and some special download to upgrade. I'm assuming purchase twilight period will make it difficult to do a clean install of w7, and require adding w7 on top of vista?

I hope lenovo deliver it with 7 installed.

forgive me if this is a stupid question.

AvalonXIII wrote:But you forgot the fact that if you get Win 7 preloaded by Lenovo, it will have unnecessary Thinkvantage utilities that will drag down the performance of the machine.
Clean install is always better. After performing a clean install of windows 7, my boot time is 15 second, and shut down time is 3 second. Also, battery life is 8+ hours.

Some very good numbers

Clean install is always better. After performing a clean install of windows 7, my boot time is 15 second, and shut down time is 3 second. Also, battery life is 8+ hours.

how did you get 15 second boot time? did you use vlite?

mattbiernat wrote: how did you get 15 second boot time? did you use vlite?

Nope, no vlite. I'm using an SSD. With a traditional HDD, I got 25 seconds boot time.

hmm i am at 33s boot time with SSD. did you use the "bare bones" configuration by black viper, disabled antivirus, fireware and windows defender. what else did you do to strip it down to 15s?

my boots around 90 seconds with 100+ processes running, my workaround is called "sleep" 5 seconds from hitting the button to working. 5 seconds to "shutdown".

mulambo187 wrote:"sleep" 5 seconds from hitting the button to working. 5 seconds to "shutdown".

this won't work in los angeles or dominica where i am right now. simple reason: 100F heat + sleeping laptop + bag = overheating

I too want to know how you get a X200 Tablet to boot in 15 seconds

It's just a clean install with all drivers. I don't do any tweak at all (well, except disabling defragmenting for SSD). Also, I count the boot time from the time BIOS appears to login screen. Plus all my required programs have no startup service, so it doesn't have to load them.

AvalonXIII wrote:Also, I count the boot time from the time BIOS appears to login screen.

okay that explains why my boot time does not equal your boot time. i count from the time I press the power button to the time windows becomes usable - this is the practical boot time. the fastest i ever got was 27 seconds but some people with moded XP got it down to 15 seconds (from the time of pressing the power button to the time the windows because usable). yet those systems seem to be extremely crippled with no AV, no firewalls, no wireless networking and everything straight out bare bones.

Well, I have a password protected account so it can't go into desktop by itself
It takes about 5 more seconds after I type my password for the laptop to become usable, so I'm looking at around 20 seconds in total for booting.

mattbiernat wrote: okay that explains why my boot time does not equal your boot time. i count from the time I press the power button to the time windows becomes usable - this is the practical boot time. the fastest i ever got was 27 seconds but some people with moded XP got it down to 15 seconds (from the time of pressing the power button to the time the windows because usable). yet those systems seem to be extremely crippled with no AV, no firewalls, no wireless networking and everything straight out bare bones.

mattbiernat wrote:Also, I count the boot time from the time BIOS appears to login screen.

okay that explains why my boot time does not equal your boot time. i count from the time I press the power button to the time windows becomes usable - this is the practical boot time. the fastest i ever got was 27 seconds but some people with moded XP got it down to 15 seconds (from the time of pressing the power button to the time the windows because usable). yet those systems seem to be extremely crippled with no AV, no firewalls, no wireless networking and everything straight out bare bones.[/quote]


Exactly.. That is how it should be counted. I would like to see a 15 second boot from the time I press the power button to the time Windows becomes usable. I'm getting around 27-28 seconds on my Macbook now this way with the Vertex SSD.

syrahnose wrote:I've bought a x200 on 21st and ticked the free w7 upgrade. Does that mean when it is delivered it will come with a separate set of w7 disks, or will it have the old vista disks and some special download to upgrade. I'm assuming purchase twilight period will make it difficult to do a clean install of w7, and require adding w7 on top of vista?

I hope lenovo [will] deliver it with 7 installed.

If you ordered it with Vista, then it will come with Vista installed. The free upgrade will arrive as a DVD in the mail at some point in the (hopefully, near) future.

When you use a Win 7 upgrade DVD, you will have the option to "upgrade" your exisiting Vista installation to Win 7. That means it will take all your installed programs and settings.

If you want a "clean" install of Win 7, you will need to select Advanced options on the Upgrade screen and format your Vista hard drive, before Win 7 starts the install.

[/quote]If you ordered it with Vista, then it will come with Vista installed. The free upgrade will arrive as a DVD in the mail at some point in the (hopefully, near) future.

When you use a Win 7 upgrade DVD, you will have the option to "upgrade" your exisiting Vista installation to Win 7. That means it will take all your installed programs and settings.

If you want a "clean" install of Win 7, you will need to select Advanced options on the Upgrade screen and format your Vista hard drive, before Win 7 starts the install.[/quote]

Yes I did order Vista with win 7 upgrade option. Now I 'm wondering if I can downgrade the Vista to XP, until the upgrade DVD arrives, and then upgrade to Win 7 from there. Or must I leave it in vista? I will do a clean install probably.