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X220 IPS panel and noticeable image persistence ?

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X220 IPS panel and noticeable image persistence ?

#1 Post by Puppy » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:58 pm

I've just read several complaints that the IPS panel used in X220 suffers from "image persistence" problem. This is known problem of many LCD monitors (even my NEC 2090 UXi has it as well, after ~ 10 hours of static image displayed) but LG panels seems to be very sensitive to this problem.

There are reports that the persistence is visible even after 15 minutes of static image displayed :(
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-Th ... 201/page/3
http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo- ... ptops.html

Is it just a bad batch of panels or common problem ? I've never noticed it on my R51 IPS panel made by IDTech.
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Re: X220 IPS panel and noticeable image persistence ?

#2 Post by bill bolton » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:31 pm

Puppy wrote:Is it just a bad batch of panels or common problem ?
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-Th ... 269#M26917

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Re: X220 IPS panel and noticeable image persistence ?

#3 Post by iamdmc » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:39 am

I haven't noticed that.

Just got my X220 yesterday, though. I asked my father who got his delivered first (Father's Day gift) and he said he hasn't noticed that either.

Could be a bad batch, or a bad manufacturer. If you get one like that send it back to Lenovo for a replacement. No need to live with a **** screen if you pay good money for it.
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Re: X220 IPS panel and noticeable image persistence ?

#4 Post by pianowizard » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:59 am

iamdmc wrote:Could be a bad batch, or a bad manufacturer.
Also, we can discover lots of "issues" whenever we inspect a laptop too closely, like a tiny bit of ghosting, a tiny bit of noise, a tiny bit of flex, a tiny bit of squeakiness, etc. IMO, life is too short to worry about these minor things.
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Re: X220 IPS panel and noticeable image persistence ?

#5 Post by iamdmc » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:21 am

You're right, but when it comes to my ThinkPads I'm a perfectionist.

I always have to consider resale value too, since I will be selling it in a year or so to purchase the X230 ;)

Usually I sell it for the same amount as I bought it for, because I buy at prices way below market value.
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Re: X220 IPS panel and noticeable image persistence ?

#6 Post by rleo25 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:14 pm

I've tested my x220 IPS display and must report that I've not found ghosts or still image fixation, it seems that problems reported on earlier IPS panels are unfrequent nowadays. Mine is a LG one.

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Re: X220 IPS panel and noticeable image persistence ?

#7 Post by vinuneuro » Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:59 pm

rleo25 wrote:I've tested my x220 IPS display and must report that I've not found ghosts or still image fixation, it seems that problems reported on earlier IPS panels are unfrequent nowadays. Mine is a LG one.
The temporary image persistence is only visible on darker backgrounds. None at all in your machine? I was one of the very early adopters and was hoping it was a batch issue. If it's truly resolved now, I'll take it to the local service center and have the screen replaced.

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Re: X220 IPS panel and noticeable image persistence ?

#8 Post by Stevo » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:39 am

FWIW no issues on my x220 IPS. Built last week. Looks great, although could be a little brighter if I wanted to be fussy. Great to be able to see a nice and even image without adjusting the angle of the screen all the time to get it spot on (TN).

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Re: X220 IPS panel and noticeable image persistence ?

#9 Post by Puppy » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:50 pm

Official Lenovo reply to the problem is as expected (no, we will not replace the faulty panels)
http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail. ... D=HT051485
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Re: X220 IPS panel and noticeable image persistence ?

#10 Post by TallyL » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:01 pm

It exists on mine, but doesn't bother me as it's only noticeable when rebooting into Ubuntu on the dull purple bootscreen. Otherwise, I can't find any evidence of ghosting.

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