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T420 ultrabay drive safe to remove after sleep

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:32 am
by Wiking
Installed ultrabay with second HDD few days ago and since then, every time I power the machine on from sleep in win7 , intel rapid writes that it safe to remove now the drive.
I used ti put my T420 sleep every night instead of full power off and now I can't do this because I loose my second hdd until full restart.
Anybody had this issue and solved it ?

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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:23 am
by Wiking
Anybody?

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Re: T420 ultrabay drive safe to remove after sleep

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:50 am
by brchan
Do you even need Intel rapid storage to see the drive? I didn't need the driver or program on my W530 and my HDD in the ultrabay had no problems after sleep. I would try removing the driver/program. I haven't seen any performance difference with it installed.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:38 am
by Wiking
I uninstalled intel rapid and now, device manager does the same. After coming back from sleep, it writes "safe to remove the drive" and disconnect it until I remove the ultra bay and put it in again.

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Re: T420 ultrabay drive safe to remove after sleep

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:54 am
by RealBlackStuff
Why put your T420 to sleep at night? What if there is a long(er) power failure?
Switch it off!
Saves on energy cost and does not interfere anywhere with laptop functionality.
(Exceptions: A31p, T43p and T61p who all had dicey GPUs)

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:01 am
by Wiking
Because it takes long to start work with it after full restart ( old hdd that waiting to be replaced). Also, an option to continue working from the place I left it plays.

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Re: T420 ultrabay drive safe to remove after sleep

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:36 am
by dr_st
RealBlackStuff wrote:Why put your T420 to sleep at night? What if there is a long(er) power failure?
What, like 2 weeks? :)
RealBlackStuff wrote:Saves on energy cost and does not interfere anywhere with laptop functionality.
The power consumption in sleep is totally negligible. Plus, it takes much longer to start up than to wake up from sleep.
RealBlackStuff wrote:(Exceptions: A31p, T43p and T61p who all had dicey GPUs)
I think sleep will do just the same "damage" as power off, seeing as the GPU will shut off and cool down just the same, and it is the thermal cycling that is quoted as the primary cause of accelerated failure.

Regarding the actual problem:

I would go to the device manager and go through all the devices in the path to the drive (probably the drive itself and the SATA port/controller), and see if there is a checkbox in power management settings saying that the computer can turn this device off to save power. If it is enabled, disabled it.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:29 am
by Wiking
Looked everywhere in the device manager and then checked power manager. Hasn't find anything related.
I need to mention that it not happen every time.

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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:35 pm
by Wiking
Still have this problem. Very annoying and not healthy for ultra bay drive and HDD in it.

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Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 2:00 am
by cfds
Wiking wrote:Still have this problem. Very annoying and not healthy for ultra bay drive and HDD in it.

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Well you are not the only one...on my T420 I am not using an Ultra bay drive/HDD but just the standard optical drive. The same thing, it gets deactivated while on battery power "safe to eject" and the only way to reactivate and use it is to restart the laptop while plugged in in the mains.
There is no box to thick in the Lenovo power manager. I have been trying different versions of the power manager without any luck...
I have given up as I cannot be asked to play around to find the right combination of drivers and power manager to get this solved. Lately seriously annoyed with the newer Lenovo products...