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Lockheed wrote: I don’t think I ever saw an IPS in person.

That explains a lot. In this case I seriously urge you to go to nearest computer store and look at the laptops with IPS displays first hand. It could be hard to truly gauge the difference otherwise. The video from the link I posted earlier shows the difference pretty good, but then again, it's a video and you are watching it on a TN

Lockheed wrote:I think 1080 might be an overkill for such a small display, but it probably won't be much different.

I have recently resized an FHD desktop screenshot to 1600x900 to see how would the difference between HD+ (131 PPI) and FHD (157 PPI) look. Although I would really prefer an HD+ IPS panel (or, even better, 16:10 WSXGA+), FHD is not that bad.

Lockheed wrote:I occasionally do woth with Photoshop and graphics processing, but mainly watch movies, surf, write and work on it.

I do graphics processing every day both at work and at home using external displays and I can tell you that it's impossible to get even somewhat truthful color/tonal reproduction (or grey tones in BW photography) on almost any TN screen. Even uncalibrated IPS/MVA is incufficient as it can easily have wrong gamma or some odd native white point instead of 6500K. Doing graphics work on such display you make adjustments based on what wrong colors and contrast your display shows and get incorrect results.
X1 display is a basic 6 bit TN with 262k of colors, while IPS panels we are talking about are high gamut with 16.2M of colors and about 97% sRGB coverage. Even though actual color count is probably less in both displays, you get the idea. Here is a photograper's experience with X1 display - http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3 ... t-50447504

Now, movies look much better on an IPS screen as you actually have black instead of dull grey and colors are more, well, colorful. And writing and working feels better because of the consistent brightness/color, independent of viewing angle.
I have not seen ghosting or smudging on an IPS for years, I don't think it still exists anywhere but the cheapest IPS displays. Backlight bleed, on the other hand, was present to some degree on every IPS display I used, but the only times I ever notice it are in movies and even then it still doesn't bother me.

ji2o0k wrote:My T430s has 16GB of ram - 500GB SSD and if I can get this IPS panel on - I am good to go!! Only other thing I am thinking of is the AC wireless card and maybe a mSata drive down the road....

To get the AC wireless card working you need to flash a custom BIOS to remove whitelist. Unfortunately, you will have to do it using a hardware flasher as Tx30 series BIOS is locked for software flashing.
An mSATA drive is godsend if you have a mechanical HDD (like I do), but I'm not sure if it would make any noticable difference considering you already have an SSD as your main drive.

Sure, I get your point. But...

ji2o0k wrote:Lockheed - not sure where you are sourcing the X1 Carbon TN panel but for me (located in Canada) - the price of a new X1 Carbon TN panel vs a AUO panel is pretty close.

... in terms of cost, I was mainly talking about the converter, which is nearly as expensive as the IPS itself, making the IPS mod price nearly twice that of X1.

I am leaning towards IPS, though. But still would like to hear from someone who actually compared the to screens in person.

Interested in ordering a kit on the next batch for the T420s. Thanks RMSMajestic
*edit* Has anyone tried out a 2560 x 1440 screen using this conversion kit, or is that an entirely different mod kit ? Found a few breadcrumbs on this, around the interwebs specifically another post from china with photos.

RMSMajestic wrote:

Frobe70 wrote: Do you have a suggestion for how we can spot if displays we have bought is genuine?

I have received a display with a sticker B140HAN01.2 H/W:0A F/W:1 Manufactured 14/8.
It has stainless steel frame, not spotted (zinc plated?) as I hace seen in some pictures when I google it.
On the green PCB visible through cutouts in the black plastic foil there are some component identifications, may this be used as verification?
I have R254 located over the center of the LCD connector.


Edit: According to photos online it looks like I have received a BOE NV140FHM-N41 with a fake sticker. Seems like the M16830NEEDCDB**** sticker in lower left part of frame is original from manufacturer, and the frame design look identical to BOE: http://www.panelook.com/NV140FHM-N41_BO ... 26179.html

It was purchased from this seller, claiming it to be "Exact / Original Model B140HAN01.2 Matte 14.0" LED Screen 1920*1080 iPS Panel":
http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&L ... t&_sacat=0

That's exactly the seller which another buyer got a counterfeit screen from.....
Better return it straight away and leave a negative feedback to warn others.

I'll look into the this matter and post some recommended souce next batch

They have given me a full refund, blaming their supplier, but they have not removed the remaining fake B140HAN01.2 panels from their eBay auctions...
At least I got a free BOE-panel, as they told me I could keep it.

Any information about new batch?

bepposax wrote:

javauma wrote:
I have exactly the same problem on my T430s, waiting for a replacement.
T430s with intel HD4000 graphics
B140HAN01.2

Same problem, waiting too.

Replacement arrived and it works. Thank you RMSMajestic!

RMSMajestic, any information about new batch? I'm interested in ordering a kit for the T420s. Thanks!

dejx wrote:RMSMajestic, any information about new batch? I'm interested in ordering a kit for the T420s. Thanks!

Yeah, me too.
I also worry how reliable is this ordering system which relays on finding posts expressing interest throughout the ~20 pages of this thread. I use this opportunity to repeat I am interested in the kit for t420s.

I have the screen picked out, but I don't want to order the screen until I have the kit on the way...

I'd like to buy a kit for T430 (non-s) when it will be available. Thanks.

I am interested in a t430s kit. Please let me know when they are available. I check the ebay listing every so often but haven't seen it pop up.

Thanks,

Lockheed wrote:

dejx wrote:RMSMajestic, any information about new batch? I'm interested in ordering a kit for the T420s. Thanks!

Yeah, me too.
I also worry how reliable is this ordering system which relays on finding posts expressing interest throughout the ~20 pages of this thread. I use this opportunity to repeat I am interested in the kit for t420s.

Very reliable. First come, first served and he usually makes ebay ads for the kit.

I would also like the T420 model when available.
I have been checking this site out every couple of days since march 26.. waiting for the new batch to come out

Hello,

I am also interested in a kit for the T420s. How does exactly work?

Thanks in advance

Hello,

I'm interested in T420s kit. How can I order it?

Thank you

They might not be available for a bit because he is very busy with school and life.

I know, I'm hoping and waiting to be able to order a T420s kit.

Attention Apr.11 2016:
I've got a few kits from Javi-Jie already, but I don't think I'll have any time until the end of this term (~May.15th) One important reason is that I'm having a part time intern while taking a master's degree, and another reason is the counterfeit screens on ebay, among the 40 kits I sold last batch, ~10 got fake screens. From next batch onward I might sell kits together with the screen or assign certain sellers. But that won't be possible until I have time to find out which seller is reliable

SaskFellow wrote:They might not be available for a bit because he is very busy with school and life.

I know, I'm hoping and waiting to be able to order a T420s kit.

Certainly, printing and packing isn't a big deal. The big big problem is the counterfeit screens on feebay. Those are really scratching my nerves and I'm just so tired of communicating/returning/posting/refunding.

Also in the previous batch, there are a few kits that were actually faulty.... Just made things worse

zarpanzur wrote:

Lockheed wrote: Yeah, me too.
I also worry how reliable is this ordering system which relays on finding posts expressing interest throughout the ~20 pages of this thread. I use this opportunity to repeat I am interested in the kit for t420s.

Very reliable. First come, first served and he usually makes ebay ads for the kit.

I kinda regret putting it on feebay now..... my ebay inbox is bombarded by "when will it be available" msgs
Also feebay just rips me off so much

Hi RMSMajestic,

If you decide to sell those few kits you have without a screen, I would like one of them for my T420s.

Thanks for all your hard work.

RMSMajestic wrote:Certainly, printing and packing isn't a big deal. The big big problem is the counterfeit screens on feebay. Those are really scratching my nerves and I'm just so tired of communicating/returning/posting/refunding.

Also in the previous batch, there are a few kits that were actually faulty.... Just made things worse

I am also interested in the converter kit (t420s) only, not the screen. I'm in Europe and will source screen locally. No point in having it shipped from the US.

Since sending out kits alone is less of a burden, perhaps you would be able to do it before May?

I am also interested in the converter kit only, because I have screen. Will be possible shipping (only converter kit) before May ?

+ 1 for kit only, no screen.

BTW I already sourced my screen from this very reliable seller in the UK http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AU-Optronics- ... 0740529321 (the screen must be out of stock atm, hence the price. I paid ~ £55)

RMSMajestic wrote:

SaskFellow wrote:They might not be available for a bit because he is very busy with school and life.

I know, I'm hoping and waiting to be able to order a T420s kit.

Certainly, printing and packing isn't a big deal. The big big problem is the counterfeit screens on feebay. Those are really scratching my nerves and I'm just so tired of communicating/returning/posting/refunding.

Also in the previous batch, there are a few kits that were actually faulty.... Just made things worse

First off, good luck with school, it's too late for me to be using my T420s for this semester.

I know, I went though a stack of sellers, found 2 that said they were legit, and one I've dealt with before. Turned out the other guy wasn't so honest, so the guy I dealt with before is the only source I know of at the moment for the anti-glare screen.

If you do kits, please offer them in anti-glare. Can you drop me a PM, as I'd like to discuss my screen choice, with you.

As an side, I am on a glare screen at the moment, and it's a pain in my pass with overhead lights, I have to crank the brightness to deal with the glare, so my battery suffers. Oh and it's an IPS screen, and it smokes even the screen on my friends MB Air, for colours and blacks.

As an aside, every thing will have faulty ones. Electronics are nice, if they last for a few weeks they tend to last for a few years, barring unexpected environmental influences. You did good by those few who's kits were faulty, and that's what is important.

I think that it is possible to buy this kit directly from Javi-Jie, here is link to auction:
https://world.taobao.com/item/444011008 ... 0.0.vJpSUg

kk99 wrote:I think that it is possible to buy this kit directly from Javi-Jie, here is link to auction:
https://world.taobao.com/item/444011008 ... 0.0.vJpSUg

For some reason I can't click buy it now, or rather it does nothing when I click on it.

NVM, in the link, you have to remove the hash at the end and load the page again. Now to learn what the hell all those symbols mean. Meh, I'll wait for RMSMajestic.

Hey,

Registered some time ago to buy the kit for my T430s.

Thanks!!!

Hey,

I'd like to express my interest in a couple kits, I have 2 machines I would like to do this to.

If you decide to have the option to sell them without the screen, a friend of mine has done this upgrade successfully and linked me the screen they got for the project.

Thanks!

Also interested in T420 (non - s ) kit

Would like to purchase a kit for t420s when available. Thanks.