T410s mSATA adapter to 1.8" drive

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Hans Gruber · #1 Post by **Hans Gruber** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:42 am

I have the inexpensive mSATA adapters to the 1.8" drive that look like these.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-PCIe-PCI-e ... 2c9bd49674

Every few months the drive comes loose and I have to open the HDD bay and slide the mSATA back into place.

I was looking for a 1.8" drive enclosure that is in the $10 range. The problem is not significant enough to spend $25 on something like this. Is there any Chinese generic of this type of mSATA to 1.8" drive enclosure?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aleratec-mSATA- ... 2801f0f14c

Lastly, I have a couple of the Samsung 1.8" SSD SATA II drives but they only read 180mb and write around 170mb compared to the 250mb read and 230mb write speeds of an mSATA III 128GB SSD.

#2 Post by **RealBlackStuff** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:05 am

Put the mSATA contraption on top of a regular drive for good measurement.
Cut a piece of good carton or plastic to the same dimensions as that 1.8" or 2.5" drive and tape that under the mSATA drive/adapter, to make it 'look' like it has proper drive dimensions.
Problem solved for free.

Hans Gruber · #3 Post by **Hans Gruber** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:15 am

I would probably want to use heavy duty cardboard and electric tape if I went that route. I have an exacto knife kit.

ajkula66 · #4 Post by **ajkula66** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:37 am

Hans Gruber wrote:
Lastly, I have a couple of the Samsung 1.8" SSD SATA II drives but they only read 180mb and write around 170mb compared to the 250mb read and 230mb write speeds of an mSATA III 128GB SSD.

Which drives *exactly* are these Samsungs? If they're the original ones that shipped in final versions of X301/T400s and some of the early T410s machines those figures look about right. These SSDs were nothing to write home about back then, let alone now.

Hans Gruber · #5 Post by **Hans Gruber** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:05 am

ajkula66 wrote:
Hans Gruber wrote:
Lastly, I have a couple of the Samsung 1.8" SSD SATA II drives but they only read 180mb and write around 170mb compared to the 250mb read and 230mb write speeds of an mSATA III 128GB SSD.
Which drives *exactly* are these Samsungs? If they're the original ones that shipped in final versions of X301/T400s and some of the early T410s machines those figures look about right. These SSDs were nothing to write home about back then, let alone now.

George, I will pull a drive out and give you the model number. With regard to SATA II performance, it should be able to do 300mb or close to it on the read speed. I have that 64GB Samsung 1.8" drive that nearly doubled it's performance using the Windows 10 preview. I think drivers may play a factor in the speed of SATA II.

I had a RAID 0 on my gaming desktop machine that had read speeds of 1030mb in a SATA III motherboard. The write speeds were 930mb. The theory that SATA III is 600mb cap doesn't really hold.

Here are my Toshiba 128GB Q series RAID 0 benchmarks.
http://i.imgur.com/7kbemtI.png

ajkula66 · #6 Post by **ajkula66** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:12 am

Hans Gruber wrote:
George, I will pull a drive out and give you the model number. With regard to SATA II performance, it should be able to do 300mb or close to it on the read speed.

Correct, but many of these old SATA II drives were not really capable of breaking the 200Mb in real life.

I have that 64GB Samsung 1.8" drive that nearly doubled it's performance using the Windows 10 preview. I think drivers may play a factor in the speed of SATA II.

Drivers - especially the chipset and the AHCI ones - are extremely important. No questions asked.

I had a RAID 0 on my gaming desktop machine that had read speeds of 1030mb in a SATA III motherboard. The write speeds were 930mb. The theory that SATA III is 600mb cap doesn't really hold.

Well, I'm dead certain that you'd get some interesting figures with RAID configuration even when using hi-end spinning drives. It's really not an apple-to-apple comparison with a single drive...

Hans Gruber · #7 Post by **Hans Gruber** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:17 am

Here are the specs on my Samsung SATA II 1.8" drive. I have two of these drives.
Samsung 128GB
F/W VBM1EL1Q
manufacture date July 26th 2010
P/N MMCRE28G8MXP-OVBL1

ajkula66 · #8 Post by **ajkula66** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:41 am

Yep, the speeds that you're getting with that drive seem about right. Check here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads ... es.413354/

Hans Gruber · #9 Post by **Hans Gruber** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:58 am

Is there any budget enclosure anybody has seen like the $25 one in the original link? I have seen on ebay 2.5" Msata enclosures for between $7-10.

PandorasThinkpad · #10 Post by **PandorasThinkpad** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:58 pm

Hi!

This is what an adapter for the adapter in the german thinkpad forum looks like, these parts were produced by shapeways....

So this is a fine thing to use Msata SSD's.....in T400s/ T410s/ X300/ X301.

Sincerly,

PanDoRa

Hans Gruber · #11 Post by **Hans Gruber** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:48 am

Thanks for your link Pandora. That looks like something crude that MacGyver would have created in a pinch. https://youtu.be/XfCa3wn37mU

PandorasThinkpad · #12 Post by **PandorasThinkpad** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:09 am

But it works perfectly and that's really what counts.

#13 Post by **RealBlackStuff** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:06 am

My mSATA-mod works perfectly as well, and costs nothing (apart from your own talent).

I just cut a piece off a broken palmrest.

Hans Gruber · #14 Post by **Hans Gruber** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:32 am

I am going to go your route. I have a Samsung 1.8" SSD. I was going to trace it with a pen and cut out a piece of plastic.

PandorasThinkpad · #15 Post by **PandorasThinkpad** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:12 am

Just to bring it to an end

Yours is ugly and mine is nice...just like me...

#16 Post by **RealBlackStuff** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:18 am

And who is going to see the end-result, once it's inside the laptop?
Nobody, so who really cares about looks?

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