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Re: New IPS FHD Upgrade Kit for thinkpad T420 T430 ,And T430S T420S

#31 Post by JohJoh1k » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:40 am

Have just ordered the T420s version. About to order a B140HAN01.3. Stay tuned..

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#32 Post by jaspen-meyer » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:16 am

I connect the T420 kit today with this screeh: https://www.ebay.com/itm/-3/182340411925
The display is totally garbled.
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Anyone try this kit with coreboot or can suggest a way to debug this?
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#33 Post by t140568 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:23 pm

jaspen-meyer wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:16 am
I connect the T420 kit today with this screeh: https://www.ebay.com/itm/-3/182340411925
The display is totally garbled.
Machine uses coreboot for its bios.

Anyone try this kit with coreboot or can suggest a way to debug this?
I have Coreboot installed on my machine and have no problem using the adapter. That being said, I did have a problem with the LCD I ordered (can't remember the website). I plugged in the LCD and got nothing but a gray screen. This was even after the seller "assuring" me that it would be the exact panel I requested (B140HAN01.3) and not a "compatible" model. I ordered another B140HAN01.3 from a seller on eBay which was pulled from a working T440 (T450? - can't remember). That panel is now working flawlessly in my T420. If I were to do this again, I'd head that route. While it makes it harder to find, you'll get what you need. There seem to be a lot of sellers selling "counterfeit" B140HAN01.3 panels. They just seem to print labels with the model number and slap it on whatever "compatible" LCD they have. (Disclaimer: Of course, this is just my theory - no hard evidence as of yet.)
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#34 Post by jaspen-meyer » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:49 pm

Do you have an ivy bridge process or sandy bridge? Not sure whether it'd matter, but it may.
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#35 Post by t140568 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:01 am

Good point. I’m on Sandy Bridge (2520m specifically). That may explain the garbled output you got vs the gray screen I got. Hrm...

I need to just bite the bullet and pick up a 3632qm. I’ve been wanting to for some time.
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#36 Post by Grincho » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:03 pm

I just bought and installed 1080p IPS combo - screen and a conversion board from AliExpress (cheaper, than advertised by OP). I didn't fully assemble my T430, yet, just connected display and keyboard, but already want to share my WOW! No flickering, no tearing, everything is flawless. Btw, what is light bleeding? How it looks like?

Anyhow, some funny moments: 1. The conversion board was lying on top of the small plastic bag, where it supposed to be inside (guys were really in a hurry packing it).
2. Marking on the back of the screen is AUO 1.3, but Aida64 reports that it is AUO 1.2
3. What are those 4x white washers?
4. No any mounting adhesive or whatever things in the parcel - how I need to attach the conversion board? Just buy some adhesive tape in the store?

But if they put only those washers, they might be important... How to use them?
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#37 Post by t140568 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:08 pm

I tried placing the board behind the screen like so many others have done, but that(as for others) created a lot of stress on the lcd and caused light bleeding. So, since my wires are long enough, I moved the converter board to the left of the cpu. I had to pull and repaste the heat sink to fit it under that corner of the chassis, but it was completely worth it. I rolled 2 pieces of electrical tape to support the board and lift it away from the motherboard. It’s hard to explain exactly. I took pictures, but haven’t gotten around to uploading them.

Light bleeding is what you get along the edge (usually) of an lcd. It is especially noticeable when the screen is black, but lit. Excessive white light will show up almost like someone is shining a tiny flashlight along the edge of the panel. It’s annoying, especially when you spend so much money and time trying to get a good lcd.
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#38 Post by ecojournalist » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:02 pm

I'm new to the community, and I just want to make sure I'm following this right:

I want to upgrade to a brighter screen. My T430s (1600x900, dedicated 5400 1gb card) I will need not only the screen, but a convertor with a wire as well. Such as the one found here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/B140HAN01-1-1- ... 3161089165

I understand I will be able to find guides and tutorials on the forums, but just want to make sure that I know what it is that I'm aiming for.

Thanks!

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#39 Post by TPFanatic » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:31 pm

You would need to get the version for T420s and T430s, not the T420 and T430 version.

With a T430s you can upgrade to WQHD with an RMSMajestic kit.
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#40 Post by CPC464 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:23 am

Here another one who bought and sucessfully installed a kit from EvanJoo in a T420s.

No flickering or other problens so far. Only i notice in tpfancontrol a pci temp. a little higher than usual (around 50-60°C).

I used a theoretically original AUO B140HAN01.3. It was, theoretically, a original Lenovo replacement part from a trusted seller with S/N in invoice, but there are tons of fake panels out there.

The FHD screen is OK after calibration, but before calibration it seems a little greenish to my eyes. But, in any case, it's a HUGE improvement compared with the crappy original Samsung TN panel.

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#41 Post by t140568 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:30 pm

jaspen-meyer wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:49 pm
Do you have an ivy bridge process or sandy bridge? Not sure whether it'd matter, but it may.
So I installed a 3632qm a few days ago and the LCD adapter works fine when I'm fully booted into Ubuntu, but will not display anything during bootup. The first screen I see is for login.
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#42 Post by Grincho » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:18 pm

Grincho wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:03 pm
I just bought and installed 1080p IPS combo - screen and a conversion board from AliExpress (cheaper, than advertised by OP). I didn't fully assemble my T430, yet, just connected display and keyboard, but already want to share my WOW! No flickering, no tearing, everything is flawless.
So far, screen works great and pleasing my eyes greatly. Btw, I bought a kit from here https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SANITER ... 2e32995b6a.

Cheaper than from other sellers and delivered in a week time with proper courier service to my doors from China to Dubai.
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#43 Post by dalmannen » Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:05 am

They are indeed used to raise the LCD from the LCD kit circuit board. By putting one washer on top of each of the 4 screw holes and then placing the screen on top of that and screwing the screws in, the screen will be lifted a couple of millimeters from the back casing. This will reduce the problem with the LCD kit circuit board poking the back side of the screen.

I have received my kit and will install it later this week. I will add some photos of the installation process here when I'm done.
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Here is Evan Joo's reply to a query about purchasing a longer cable to experiment with placement of the (non-S) converter board:

HI,friend

Thank you very much for your letter and advice.
The longer cable of the kit for the t430s can work with this item, but as the cable are so a little bigger that they are not putting under the keyboard. We try to cut some GND cables to Make them thin and thin, so that to put them to under the keyboard. But there is another problem is that The signal are easily disturbed,and some time the the screen can not see . So we do not cut the GND cables to make it thin. But send with the plastic washer for people install the screen. Hope for your understanding.
Have a great day!

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Has anyone received the washers and if so, where are they used? I assume they are something to raise the LCD evenly...

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#44 Post by JohJoh1k » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:00 pm

Success! (T420s) The display is now gorgeous and the viewing angles are great!. Crystal clear, no dead pixels.

I ordered and installed: I contacted the seller before ordering, who confirmed the unit was an B140HAN01.3 by AUO. I didn't use the included washers/spacers as they caused too much pressure to be applied to the LCD causing excess light bleed. There is minimal light bleed now, only visible on very dark/black screen. I placed the video controller board on the motherboard under the keyboard as per the pic in the ebay link above.


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#46 Post by GrifterGuru » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:47 pm

No images?
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#47 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:04 pm

Those are crap pictures from a Google account that nobody has permission to see.
Google just wants to spy on everybody, just like Micro$haft and its ilk.

If I were dalmannen I would upload those pictures to the likes of www.imgur.com and then just post links to them here.
And then I'd stop using GoogleDocs or GoogleDrive or whatever they call it.

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#48 Post by GrifterGuru » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:21 pm

That is a nice looking upgrade screen!

What is it like for viewing within windows or MacOS? What are viewing angles like?
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#49 Post by donutboy » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:08 pm

Hi,
i'm new on this forum.
I read this thread carefully because I have been looking for some time a kit for a T430. I came across this thread and apparently the kits sold on ebay or aliexpress are clones of the RMSMajestic kit.
RMSMajestic have you released a new kit or do you have to be satisfied with clones?

thanks a lot

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#50 Post by Niknok » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:47 pm

As a purchaser of the converter board kit sold on Ebay by E-qstore, and the one who initially raised the question about clones in this topic, I am completely satisfied by the performance of the board in my T420.

Edit: Today I turned on my T420 and there was a faint green column (about four inches wide) in the middle of the screen. Sort of like a grid. Have never seen this before. Rebooted, still there. Then I removed the LCD panel screws and double checked the connections at the cables and made sure each cable was fully pushed into the connector. They have tape over them so they connector shouldn't come out but who knows. When I replaced the panel and rebooted, the green column was gone.

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#51 Post by dol » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:17 pm

Grincho wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:03 pm
I just bought and installed 1080p IPS combo - screen and a conversion board from AliExpress (cheaper, than advertised by OP). I didn't fully assemble my T430, yet, just connected display and keyboard, but already want to share my WOW! No flickering, no tearing, everything is flawless. Btw, what is light bleeding? How it looks like?

Anyhow, some funny moments: 1. The conversion board was lying on top of the small plastic bag, where it supposed to be inside (guys were really in a hurry packing it).
2. Marking on the back of the screen is AUO 1.3, but Aida64 reports that it is AUO 1.2
I spoke with the seller of the board and he says the conversion board is programmed to display AOU 1.2 whatever is connected to it. So the 1.3 panel can be genuine and should be treated as a 1.3 for color accuracy.

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#52 Post by RMSMajestic » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:18 pm

donutboy wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:08 pm
Hi,
i'm new on this forum.
I read this thread carefully because I have been looking for some time a kit for a T430. I came across this thread and apparently the kits sold on ebay or aliexpress are clones of the RMSMajestic kit.
RMSMajestic have you released a new kit or do you have to be satisfied with clones?

thanks a lot
1. Please call those Javi-Jie kits, theoretically I'm just a reseller, who's unable to decide the technology and production. You also get to type less by calling those Javi-Jie kits :P

2. Me and Javi-Jie both have no plans or intentions to continue with those kits as the 8th Gen processors have been released. We did intend to try a better version for non-s about half a year ago, but the cost is even higher than WQHD kits. Since Javi-Jie is more of a technology perfectionist nerd, I could not pursuaded him from a business and marketing perspective. A few years back a group of Germans wanted to purchase non-s flickering kits, they even agreed to take the flickering ones at their own risk but Javi turned both them and me down :(

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b. for the non-s T420 T430 kits, according to Javi-Jie, the solution of clones will alleviate, but not completely resolve the problem. He made that conclusion based on his knowledge on technology. But from a business perspective a 5%-10% or 20% failure rate might be acceptable, and javi-jie was, and still are looking from a technology perspective.
c. One of the reasons for me to sell those WQHD kits, is to squeeze the market space for copycats. I also had the intention to push forward the cost-down version of T420s FHD kits. But changes in our lives stopped that from happening, as well as the lowering skill base of buyers and also the number of fake panels out there.
d. Since we are not producing the FHD kits anymore, there'd be little moral burden for purchasing a clone. But we will not respond to any msgs reagrding the T420s FHD kits.
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#53 Post by RMSMajestic » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:27 pm

theterminator93 wrote:
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Okay, so no fix for those of us (myself included) with FHD kits for the T420 that flicker?? :(
Javi-Jie was close to a solution using soft PCB, but as you guessed the cost is pretty high, even higher than the WQHD kits.
I think I have send you a refund back then?
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#54 Post by Niknok » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:51 am

I recently revisited the e-qstore Ebay ad for the the T420 T430, and they have made a positive change to this kit. The cable to the LCD from the converter board has been lengthened:
From 2018-09-18, the controller board kit is updated, it can be install under the keypad. The new kit's cables are not compatible with the Previous version, Please note that .
The allows placing the converter board to the right of the CPU under the keyboard, rather than behind the LCD panel.

Not sure if you get the longer cable if you buy from Ali-Express.

I replaced my FHD panel because I was getting a four or five inch wide band of discoloration in the center of the screen. Sometimes I could reseat the cables and the band would go away. But then it started appearing more frequently so I replaced the LCD with with a different panel and things are OK now. I wonder if the malfunction was related to mounting the converter board behind the LCD, and if this additional pressure on the panel caused the panel to go bad. So now I mounted the converter board on top of the fan, as mentioned by another user. It's unfortunate the new kit's cables are not compatible with the previous version.

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#55 Post by Grincho » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:34 am

Grincho wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:03 pm

So far, screen works great and pleasing my eyes greatly. Btw, I bought a kit from here https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SANITER ... 2e32995b6a.

Cheaper than from other sellers and delivered in a week time with proper courier service to my doors from China to Dubai.
Now need help, please.
Everything worked great, until I dropped my T430 from the height of my waist on the concrete floor. After that my screen shows only vertical white stripes (pics below). I've disconnected and reconnected conversion board and display, but that didn't help. So, I connected my old TN panel and it's working (at least nothing wrong with graphic card or motherboard).

Now I need to order new display or new conversion kit, as I can't look at old TN panel anymore without eye bleeding.

Guys, please, advise, does it look like display is damaged or conversion board? Visually I can't see any damages to the display or conversion board.

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#56 Post by RealBlackStuff » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:02 am

I'd say the LCD is gone.
But check inside the lid and on that PCB, if the LCD-cable is still properly connected on both sides.
And maybe find someone with a spare FHD screen or a T440/T450 that has IPS FHD.
You might be able to try that LCD or the complete lid on your machine (should be the same cable connector).
If that works OK, then you definitely just need a new LCD.
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#57 Post by TPFanatic » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:45 pm

I think LCD is the more volatile part especially if the shock hit the back of the LCD if the conversion board is behind it.
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#58 Post by Grincho » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:57 pm

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:02 am
I'd say the LCD is gone.
TPFanatic wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:45 pm
I think LCD is the more volatile part especially if the shock hit the back of the LCD if the conversion board is behind it.
Thank you, guys. Unfortunately, I don't have anyone with spare FHD to verify. So, I'll just order new FHD panel. In worst case I will have spare one, heh.

Another strange thing I noticed. So, I switched to my old TN LCD, but the the screen is very dim - it's on maximum in Windows, but still it's very dim, indoors it's kind of ok, but outdoors I can't see nothing on the screen. Can it be something wrong with other parts of the laptop, which can affect screen brightness, after the drop?
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#59 Post by Grincho » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:06 am

Grincho wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:57 pm
Another strange thing I noticed. So, I switched to my old TN LCD, but the the screen is very dim - it's on maximum in Windows, but still it's very dim, indoors it's kind of ok, but outdoors I can't see nothing on the screen. Can it be something wrong with other parts of the laptop, which can affect screen brightness, after the drop?
Ok, disregard that question of mine. It's just some anti-placebo effect. I realized that old TN LCD was always like that, heh.
Thinkpad T430

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