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IMO Lenovo is big and powerful enough to provide IPS-LCDs
if they only wanted to.

This would be the first time that component suppliers would
be able to dictate the qualities of an end-product of a big player!
IMO it's pathetic to winge, that Lenovo is not getting something,
which they where selling in the past, and then using worse
components and ontop label it as innovative.

If Lenovo would only maintain a low-volume premium line
in 4:3 format, be it IPS or OLED, but in any case on the market,
they could have a unique selling proposition, and a much
better image, not only among professionals.

Found an interesting comparison of screens (TN, IPS, LED)
http://www.51nb.com/viewnews-39412-page-19.html

I hope Lenovo is really that powerful (as powerful as Samsung who manufacture panels themselves)

milstein wrote:Found an interesting comparison of screens (TN, IPS, LED)
http://www.51nb.com/viewnews-39412-page-19.html

Wow, that's a supremely informative comparison! The T60's 1400x1050 IPS screen is, as expected, the best among the four, and the Sony TX series' 1366x768 LED screen is the second best. The X300's 1440x900 LED is as bad as if not worse than the 600X's 1024x768 TN screen, which is a shame because the 600X is almost a decade old! I almost bought the X300 two months back and am glad that I didn't.

BTW, I am viewing these photos on my Dell 2001FP monitor, which has an IPS screen so I'm sure these photos are displayed with high fidelity.

pianowizard wrote:...
Wow, that's a supremely informative comparison! The T60's 1400x1050 IPS screen is, as expected, the best among the four, and the Sony TX series' 1366x768 LED screen is the second best. The X300's 1440x900 LED is as bad as if not worse than the 600X's 1024x768 TN screen...

I'd say IPS screen are of a totally *different class*.
LED of Sony TX are similar to LED of X300, and Sony's may be only a bit better if there is any difference.

I'm just curious, a few members here talked about Fujitsu - saying that Fujitsu has IPS panels for their widescreen laptops, is that true? And if Fujitsu can have IPS panels with qualities such as that on their T2010, then, I am sure Lenovo has a chance to get hold of these panels for Thinkpads.

Crunch wrote:This would be my very first non-Thinkpad purchase...ever. However, I've never had a Lenovo Thinkpad, only IBM Thinkpads, which is likely the reason.

flip your T60p over and read the copyright/trademark panel.   you'll see that you've already purchased a lenovo thinkpad.

any thinkpad manufactured after may of 2005 is a "lenovo" thinkpad.   even my mom's X32 has a lenovo logo on the build label.

milstein wrote:Found an interesting comparison of screens (TN, IPS, LED)
http://www.51nb.com/viewnews-39412-page-19.html

Very good link. I'd like to see more pictures in dark environment. But there is no "LED" lcd technology. It is just TN with different backlight, no change in terms of picture quality.

It shows the problem at all. The only non-TN screen is clearly a different class comparing to others. As I thought the X300 screen is probably even worse than my X31.

erik wrote:flip your T60p over and read the copyright/trademark panel. you'll see that you've already purchased a lenovo thinkpad.

Shows a big IBM logo, and further down "Manufactured for Lenovo". Oh well...doesn't matter...

Puppy wrote:

milstein wrote:Found an interesting comparison of screens (TN, IPS, LED)
http://www.51nb.com/viewnews-39412-page-19.html

Very good link. I'd like to see more pictures in dark environment. But there is no "LED" lcd technology. It is just TN with different backlight, no change in terms of picture quality.

It shows the problem at all. The only non-TN screen is clearly a different class comparing to others. As I thought the X300 screen is probably even worse than my X31.

Man, what a difference. Comparatively speaking, IPS blows them all away, with the LED-backlit one a distant second, and the TN looking like the worst. IPS has ruined me forever.

pianowizard wrote:BTW, I am viewing these photos on my Dell 2001FP monitor, which has an IPS screen so I'm sure these photos are displayed with high fidelity.

Oh yes ... NEC 2090UXi here

Puppy wrote:

pianowizard wrote:BTW, I am viewing these photos on my Dell 2001FP monitor, which has an IPS screen so I'm sure these photos are displayed with high fidelity.

Oh yes ... NEC 2090UXi here

Is there a list of IPS monitors? Also, is there another laptop manufacturer that has IPS screens??

cited from >>Eizo LCD Monitors
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Eizo FlexScan L997
The high-end choice for professionals using CAD/CAM, DTP, and other imaging applications with its S-IPS panel and wide range of color control capabilities.
--- end of citation ---

The other Eizo's are mostly S-PVA, faster and nearly comparable in color
reproduction compared to AS-IPS, from what I read on Wikipedia.

I conclude from these offers that there exist some
factories currently producing IPS-LCDs.

Crunch wrote:Is there a list of IPS monitors?

Desktop monitors ? Serious manufacturers provides such info. There are NEC and Eizo x-IPS based monitors for sure. You might find also cheap office-oriented monitors by LG, Dell or HP but the quality is questionable. I remember a HP model using the same lcd panel as NEC but the difference was very noticeable (range of brightness setting, backlight uniformity correction etc.)

Eizo seems to be more oriented to S-PVA panels lately while NEC uses H-IPS panels in new models. Both are superior to TN panels of course

Crunch wrote:Also, is there another laptop manufacturer that has IPS screens??

No, except few tablet pc models.

Read this piece of blog entry recently
http://wowio.wordpress.com/2008/04/18/o ... ne-screen/

I'm wondering who is the provider for these OLPC XO screen panels.