DVI on dock available when on Intel integrated chip?

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DVI on dock available when on Intel integrated chip?

#1 Post by piquadrat » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:06 am

Hi,

I have only Linux on my T400, and can't get the DVI out to work when the discrete graphics chip is deactivated. According to an Intel Linux developer, this is by design, which I find hard to believe, such a huge drawback was not mentioned in any of the many T400 reviews I read before buying the machine.

So, could anybody with a T400, Windows and an advanced minidock please answer this question: Does an external monitor attached to DVI work if the discrete graphics is deactivated in the BIOS?

Thanks in advance,
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#2 Post by awolfe63 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:01 pm

Nope.

DVI does not work on integrated graphics. (according to Lenovo - it could be a software thing, but it is probably hardware)

The idea is that if you are docked - why not use the discrete graphics. Pretty Vista-centric.
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#3 Post by awolfe63 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:04 pm

Now that I think about it - the Intel chipsets use the same pins for DVI and for PCI-express. This could be the issue - although I'm pretty sure there are desktop motherboards that support both.
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#4 Post by dr_st » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:09 am

DVI works for integrated graphics on all T60/T61, and some Z61t laptops. Probably on R61 as well.

I would therefore find it very suprising and disappointing that it wouldn't work on the newer T400/T500.

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#5 Post by awolfe63 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:29 pm

Those models don't have a second graphics chip.
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#6 Post by dr_st » Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:37 pm

Not all the T500 have it either. It could be interesting to see whether behavior is between the GMA-only and the hybrid graphics T400/T500s.

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#7 Post by awolfe63 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:45 pm

This is an issue on the models with dual graphics. See the original post. Intel-only machines do DVI on the dock just fine.
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#8 Post by piquadrat » Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:22 am

That's pretty disappointing, especially because this limitation is not mentioned prominently anywhere. I don't buy the argument that one would use the discrete graphics anyway when docked. I like my laptop as silent as possible, and there is definitely a difference between the two chips in respect to fan speed...

And like awolfe63 said, it's Vista-centric. Switching graphics on Linux does not only involve rebooting, but also replacing a central config file (xorg.conf), completely remove one driver and then install the other one (because AMD's fglrx driver overwrites a couple of libraries with its own versions)...

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#9 Post by lovebeta » Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:55 pm

I don't know about Linux. But DVI on the dock definitely works under XP/Vista with 4500MHD in T400. Actually you CAN use DVI and VGA concurrently without any problem either.
X60s 1704CTO | 12.1" XGA | L2400 1.66 Ghz | 1.5GB RAM | Intel 945GM | XP Pro
T400 7434CTO | 14.1" WXGA w/ Camera | P8400 2.26Ghz | 2GB RAM | GMA 4500MHD | XP Pro
X200 7458CTO | 12.1" WXGA w/ Camera | P8400 2.26Ghz | 2GB RAM | GMA 4500MHD | XP Pro

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