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Crunch · #31 Post by **Crunch** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:30 pm

How many seconds does it take for your powerhouse to boot up?

#32 Post by **erik** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:18 pm

Kel Ghu wrote:I didnt say the graphic card didnt matter, but it doesnt matter as much imho.

Did the $1300 difference was worth keeping the FX3700 instead of the 8800GT? Would you have prefered a dual core with a FX3700 or quad core with FX370?

i got the FX 3700 for $755 shipped so the difference was closer to $600.

if money were an issue then i'd rather have a lesser processor with a better GPU every time. for what i do, the video card is much more important. the processors really only come into play when rendering. in fact, most of the time the second xeon just sits idle.

Crunch wrote:How many seconds does it take for your powerhouse to boot up?

i've never officially timed it but i'd guess that it takes about 90~120 seconds. understand that it has two SAS arrays in RAID 1 and the system must initialize each array before starting. plus, windows server 2008 takes a bit longer than XP or 2003 to load services.

but, it rarely gets rebooted so start up times are a non-issue to me. workstations are meant to leave running 24/7.

#33 Post by **archer6** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:00 pm

andrey wrote:how difficult is it release the model with thin bezel? Did any of lenovo engineers ever held Mac notebook? If Apple can design elegant notebooks, why Lenovo can't?

I have had both Apple Laptops & ThinkPads over the last decade. And yes to a certain degree the late Apple Ti PowerBooks, and the new MacBook Pros, are very nice looking. However that's where it begins and ends, in my experience. And I am an Apple advocate.....zealot? No, but long time advocate. And yet they are nearly always flawed. Sad... but true. I'm on my 3rd new MBP since they were released, the most recent MBP being just 60days old. I buy them for fun and some personal use, however the functionality issues prevent me from using the MBP as much as I would like. Apple has yet to fix the WiFi dropout problem on MBP's. It will stay connected for up to two hours max, then it drops out, if it even goes that long. For me that is a deal breaker as I use WiFi everyday, everywhere.

ThinkPads have served me perfectly. Not a single issue that is not easily resolved. Far superior keyboards, far greater stability, far better durability. At the end of the day if I could only have one laptop it would be a ThinkPad hands down. A decision that I would make in a millisecond.

wswartzendruber · #34 Post by **wswartzendruber** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:13 pm

The TABook lists the T400 as having an Analog Devices SoundMAX AD1984HD while it actually uses a Conexant SmartAudio 221.

#35 Post by **archer6** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:54 pm

Crunch wrote:How many seconds does it take for your powerhouse to boot up?

My ThinkPad T60:
Bootup into XP Pro... 205 seconds
Bootup into Ubuntu... 37 seconds... Oh Yeah...

wswartzendruber · #36 Post by **wswartzendruber** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:03 pm

archer6 wrote:
Crunch wrote:How many seconds does it take for your powerhouse to boot up?
My ThinkPad T60:
Bootup into XP Pro... 205 seconds
Bootup into Ubuntu... 37 seconds... Oh Yeah...

Dude, no offense, but your Windows XP install...errr...uhhh...yeah...sucks.

How much RAM does your Ubuntu install take on a fresh boot after logging in?

#37 Post by **archer6** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:59 pm

wswartzendruber wrote: Dude, no offense, but your Windows XP install...errr...uhhh...yeah...sucks. How much RAM does your Ubuntu install take on a fresh boot after logging in?

No offense taken Dude.....

Actually it was a typo that I didn't notice until you commented, the corrected XP Pro boot time on my T60p is 105 seconds (not 205) and that's optimized (still not fast) for all the vertical apps I have for work. Ubuntu takes very little ram, barely moves off the system monitor baseline.

Cheers

softtower · #38 Post by **softtower** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:07 am

archer6, I'd kill for your IPS SXGA+ display... My last T60 that had it died prematurely and I suddenly found myself surrounded by crappy, barely usable LCDs on Thinkpads, Sony Vaios, everything...

#39 Post by **archer6** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:32 am

softtower wrote:archer6, I'd kill for your IPS SXGA+ display... My last T60 that had it died prematurely and I suddenly found myself surrounded by crappy, barely usable LCDs on Thinkpads, Sony Vaios, everything...

I certainly do understand your feelings about this. I must say that I am very grateful to have had the luck and presence of mind to question the future of my much beloved T-series ThinkPads going forward after the Lenovo Transition. In Feb of 2006 when I purchased my personal T60 I was not ready nor due for a replacement as my T42 was serving my needs perfectly. In fact it remains my second favorite of all the T series models (as I've had every one). However something told me to take advantage of the IPS availability and to buy a new T60. Well I'm sure glad I did as not only is it hands down the very best of ANY T-Series ThinkPad I've owned. I'm doing everything possible to keep this T60 alive and well for a long time.

As you can see by my sign line, I've added a second hard drive with Ubuntu Linux on it. What a wonderful option the Ultrabay provides, as it's like having two computers in one. While it dual boots as one might expect, I have it setup in a way that the two operating systems each have their own boot loader, therefore nothing is written to the master boot record of Win XP Pro, which keeps them totally separate. What this affords is complete independence. For example, when I first boot up the computer if I do nothing it boots into Windows as it did out of the box when new. Or after pressing the power button I wait for the splash screen then press F12 it gives me the choice of which drive to boot to. With this setup I can remove the Ultrabay hard drive, and replace it with an optical drive or my Ultrabay battery and I'm ready to go. Nothing else is needed. I can then put my Ultrabay hard drive into one of my other T's and have linux on that machine, as it's self contained. The best of both worlds.

Cheers...

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