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hey there,

does anyone know if the 1.8" 80GB Intel drive that is offered by Lenovo is G1 or G2? I mainly ask those who have a T410s, or who know something Please if someone knows reply as I'm thinking of canceling/editing my order cause of this. I really don't want to pay a premium to get a brand new laptop with an outdated drive + having to wait 4weeks to get it.

thanks

Personally, I'd just order it with the cheapest drive possible and upgrade to the X18-M on my own. You'll know exactly what you're getting and it might even be cheaper (esp. if you sell the original drive on eBay to offset the upgrade cost.)

I believe it's G1, but not 100% sure so you should wait for someone to confirm this or not. I also have to say that i agree with ThinkRob. The results i have seen so far than the Intel SSD's and some other brands easily outperform those you get from Lenovo. Also as ThinkRob said you know what you get.

Somebody on forum.notebookreview.com received a T410s + intel SSD and it turned out to be the G1 version.

So if you need that last 10% of performance you'll have to install the SSD yourself

Volker wrote: So if you need that last 10% of performance you'll have to install the SSD yourself

Well... if it's a G1, then it's also a pretty poor price for one. Further, the G2 has much, much better performance in its "used" state than the G1 -- more than 10%, if I remember Anand's benchmarks correctly.

Further, the G2 has much, much better performance in its "used" state

True, as long as you are looking at synthetic benchmarks (only 4k random writes). But even in that use case the G1 blows away a fresh samsung SSD. Since reads aren't getting slower, the real-world performance impact is a lot less.

And getting factory-installed ram and hdd/sdd upgrades has rarely ever been competitively priced You pay for the convenience of not having to do it yourself.

I am considering installing a 160G Intel SSD. Supposedly to get all the benefits of Win 7 "enhanced experience" you need to be running a factory image, not a clean install from Win 7 disks. Does anyone know if reinstalling via the Rescue & Recovery disks give you an identical factory image?

It does. I just did that exact same upgrade on my T410..

Volker wrote:True, as long as you are looking at synthetic benchmarks (only 4k random writes).

Well, TBH I do notice a real-world difference between a "degraded" G1 and a "fresh" G1, but it's not a big one. Of course my workload basically _is_ random 4K r/w: I do a ton of development, so I definitely will notice performance differences in that area.

I'll grant you that for most people, 4K writes aren't as important as they are for me -- but I'm not sure I'd call it a "synthetic" benchmark; it's certainly got far more real world applicability than sequential write tests.

How long does it take for an SSD to degrade after normal use?

mythos1453 wrote:How long does it take for an SSD to degrade after normal use?

Depends on what is considered "normal usage".