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Maxed Out ThinkPad W500 Specifications?

#1 Post by Commando303 » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:00 pm

Hello, I am curious to the maximum specifications to which I can upgrade my Lenovo ThinkPad W500 laptop. At present, I have 8 GB of R.A.M., and an Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 (@ 2.80GGz) C.P.U.

Does anyone know whether it would be possible to install additional R.A.M. (e.g., 16 GB, 32 GB), and/or a faster C.P.U.?

Thank you very much for your help.

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Re: Maxed Out ThinkPad W500 Specifications?

#2 Post by Commando303 » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:05 pm

P.S.: Do the following make a substantial difference in performance:

1. FireGL V5700, versus ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650?
2. Intel Core 2 Duo T9600, versus T9800, versus T9900?

Thank you, again.

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Re: Maxed Out ThinkPad W500 Specifications?

#3 Post by kfzhu1229 » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:41 pm

I believe you can go up to a T9900. the Extreme edition CPUs and Quad cores might not be possible without bios and/or socket mods. Unfortunately the T9900 is extremely expensive for what performance it gives you and doesnt quite make a lot of sense when you have a t9600.
Dont think you can upgrade beyond 8gb of ram either.
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Re: Maxed Out ThinkPad W500 Specifications?

#4 Post by TPFanatic » Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:38 pm

Fastest CPU it can use is Core 2 Duo X9100 3.06 ghz with unlocked multiplier.
Fastest GFX for the unit is already equipped on every W500, the FireGL V5700 which is just a Radeon 3650 with 512 MB of VRAM.
Max RAM is 8GB, with two 2rx8 4GB sticks.
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None of the simple plug and play upgrades are worth it on a machine of this vintage, except 8GB of RAM and an SSD if you will use it as a primary machine. Today, all Core 2 Duos are the same, slow!! Quads can be installed after significant modification to hardware, which I may possibly attempt someday as I am familiarizing myself with soldering, and a BIOS mod.
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Re: Maxed Out ThinkPad W500 Specifications?

#5 Post by ThinkPadMiami » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:00 am

T9900 is usually considered a better alternative in case you are not going to overclock. The heat dissipation of a X9100 is significantly higher than a T9900. The X9100 is however usually cheaper and more readily available than the T9900. Certain X9100s have a marking that results in lower heat dissipation but CPU World would be a better resource for Q&A in that area.
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Re: Maxed Out ThinkPad W500 Specifications?

#6 Post by TPFanatic » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:54 am

There is no point paying the inflated value of a T9900 ever, and if you're already running a T9600, the performance effect of such an incremental clock speed increase is negligible and the practical effect of any incremental CPU upgrade is nonexistent. Celeron to a C2D I understand, but C2D to C2D is a waste of effort with little to no ROI.
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Re: Maxed Out ThinkPad W500 Specifications?

#7 Post by kfzhu1229 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:42 pm

TPFanatic wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:54 am
There is no point paying the inflated value of a T9900 ever, and if you're already running a T9600, the performance effect of such an incremental clock speed increase is negligible and the practical effect of any incremental CPU upgrade is nonexistent. Celeron to a C2D I understand, but C2D to C2D is a waste of effort with little to no ROI.
Agreed. The only reason why I have one is because I am extremely lucky to find one included in a Latitude E6400 that only cost me C$50. These days in this pandemic the prices for the CPU itself is already almost as much.
We are talking about the same family of processors and just a mere clock speed boost from 2.83Ghz to 3.06Ghz for the comparison of a T9600 to a T9900. This is nowhere near the kind of performance difference upgrading from the likes of a Merom C2D to a T9300/T9500 on a T61.
On a side note, is it possible to BSEL overclock a T9300/T9500 to run at a FSB of 1066Mhz on a W500?
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Re: Maxed Out ThinkPad W500 Specifications?

#8 Post by unixed » Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:57 pm

kfzhu1229 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:42 pm
On a side note, is it possible to BSEL overclock a T9300/T9500 to run at a FSB of 1066Mhz on a W500?
It will lock at multiplier X6, i.e. both will run at 1.6 GHz.

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Re: Maxed Out ThinkPad W500 Specifications?

#9 Post by Commando303 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:23 pm

Thanks, everyone. So, it sounds as if upgrading from a T9600 to a T9800, or even a T9900, simply will not yield any noticeable improvement in performance.

How about going from the Radeon 3650 to the FireGL V5700? Worth it?

Thank you very much, again.

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Re: Maxed Out ThinkPad W500 Specifications?

#10 Post by Commando303 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:24 pm

(P.S.: I already am running n 8 G.B. of R.A.M., and operating on an S.S.D.)

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Re: Maxed Out ThinkPad W500 Specifications?

#11 Post by ThinkPadMiami » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:27 pm

As far as I know all W500s already come with Fire GL integrated on the MOBO.
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Re: Maxed Out ThinkPad W500 Specifications?

#12 Post by TPFanatic » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:52 pm

Correct. W500 already has FireGL. Note, however, that the W500's FireGL's performance is the CAD equivalent to the Radeon 3650. It has double the VRAM but this is of no practical effect.
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Re: Maxed Out ThinkPad W500 Specifications?

#13 Post by ThinkPadMiami » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:57 pm

Right.
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