W520 oversaturated colors

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W520 oversaturated colors

#1 Post by mib404 » Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:58 pm

Hello thinkpaders fans.
I ask for your help in finding a solution to fix "the beast".
The machine is W520 4284-FL1, with a FHD display - 1920 x 1080 - B156HW01 V4 . The overall performance is great, except for the LCD screen that looks oversaturated, the red color kills my eyes :( .
For the last 2 years I'm been using a W500 that had the screen changed to WXGA, 1280x800, the difference is huge, the FHD screen of the W520 is killing the pleasure of using the laptop. I've googled the problem, installed different color profiles but still I have the oversaturation problem.
Do I have a bad screen? Should I change the screen to a HD+ 1600x900? How is the low resolution screen?
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Re: W520 oversaturated colors

#2 Post by brchan » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:25 pm

You may have got an unusually red tinted display panel. In this case, different color profiles probably won't have this kind of compensation (most displays are overly blue tinted) and you will have to manually calibrate the display yourself. Red tinted CCFL displays (not LED) is a symptom of a dying screen, but should not apply to LED screens.

I strongly vote against downgrading the panel to 1600x900 or lower. These panels are at best average, and often dissapointing in contrast/color.
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Re: W520 oversaturated colors

#3 Post by wileE » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:34 pm

Have you tried this profile?
http://tobby.eu/downloads/thinkpad-wiki ... 5-cuco.icm

You are complaining about one of the best screens ever in a Thinkpad.
What hurts your eyes is the color red as it should be, not that broken pastel tint in most Thinkpad screens.

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Re: W520 oversaturated colors

#4 Post by mib404 » Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:07 am

brchan wrote:You may have got an unusually red tinted display panel. In this case, different color profiles probably won't have this kind of compensation (most displays are overly blue tinted) and you will have to manually calibrate the display yourself. Red tinted CCFL displays (not LED) is a symptom of a dying screen, but should not apply to LED screens.

I strongly vote against downgrading the panel to 1600x900 or lower. These panels are at best average, and often dissapointing in contrast/color.
Blue tinted is because of the LED backlight?
wileE wrote:Have you tried this profile?
http://tobby.eu/downloads/thinkpad-wiki ... 5-cuco.icm

You are complaining about one of the best screens ever in a Thinkpad.
What hurts your eyes is the color red as it should be, not that broken pastel tint in most Thinkpad screens.
That profile makes the screen blueish. I spend 7-10h a day in front of the laptop, I really need something that will not hurt my eyes. The laptop is very powerful but the screen is killing the pleasure of using it.

Should I buy a new palmrest with a color calibration? Another LCD screen?
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Re: W520 oversaturated colors

#5 Post by RealBlackStuff » Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:54 am

Buy a pair of sunglasses, if all else fails... :mrgreen:
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#6 Post by Saucey » Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:55 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:Buy a pair of sunglasses, if all else fails... :mrgreen:
Having a pair of yellow "HD" glasses I use for running, I can say that they are suitable for gaming and PC work as well.
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Re: W520 oversaturated colors

#7 Post by 600X » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:00 pm

What you experiencing is the joy of a wide color Gamut and thus good colors. (95% of AdobeRGB) However, the color Gamut is actually so wide that some colors get out of control and pop out too much. That is why you need to calibrate the screen to a sensible standard, such as sRGB.
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Re: W520 oversaturated colors

#8 Post by mib404 » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:17 pm

600X wrote:What you experiencing is the joy of a wide color Gamut and thus good colors. (95% of AdobeRGB) However, the color Gamut is actually so wide that some colors get out of control and pop out too much. That is why you need to calibrate the screen to a sensible standard, such as sRGB.
Should I buy a the palmrest that has the built in color calibrator? or should I buy a stand alone color calibrator?
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Re: W520 oversaturated colors

#9 Post by 600X » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:22 pm

I'd get a proper color calibration device because then you can also use it on other devices, which can be very handy.
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Re: W520 oversaturated colors

#10 Post by mib404 » Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:26 am

Small update. I got a palmrest that has the color calibrator. After some calibration using different profiles: D50/65/75 and gamma settings, I'm still not happy. I might be too picky or the screen is bad.
I was thinking about changing the screen to a low gamut type with a lower resolution, 1600x900... How is that screen vs the FHD.
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Re: W520 oversaturated colors

#11 Post by 600X » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:02 am

You could always decrease saturation in the Intel driver settings if that's all you are after. The HD+ panel is mediocre in terms of viewing angles and contrast and covers sRGB as far as Colors are concerned.
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Re: W520 oversaturated colors

#12 Post by Adda » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:45 am

According to notebookcheck, the HD+ has better viewing angles, and contrast then the FHD display, while the FHD has higher brightness ans color resolution.

HD+
Maximum: 222 cd/m²
Average: 202.6 cd/m²
Brightness Distribution: 79 %
Black: 0.39 cd/m²
Contrast: 569:1

FHD
Maximum: 257 cd/m²
Average: 231.1 cd/m²
Brightness Distribution: 86 %
Black: 0.5 cd/m²
Contrast: 514:1

T510 with HD+
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Len ... 722.0.html

W510 with FHD
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Len ... 594.0.html

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Re: W520 oversaturated colors

#13 Post by mib404 » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:12 am

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131349257594
will this screen assembly work as "plug and play" in my W520?
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Re: W520 oversaturated colors

#14 Post by jcvjcvjcvjcv » Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:45 pm

Last year I bought an X-Rite i1 Display Pro and I calibrated all screens on all my computers and it cleared up the whole mess. Now everything looks the same.

My W520 was way too green.
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Re: W520 oversaturated colors

#15 Post by mib404 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:02 pm

Planning of changing the LCD with a glossy version, what should I choose HD, HD+ or FHD and also any recommendations on what to try? p/n?
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