W520: Questions regarding heatsinks and fans.

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W520: Questions regarding heatsinks and fans.

#1 Post by Surfrider » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:40 am

I'm finally getting around to putting that 2860QM in my trusty W520 (4282-24U), and I was wondering:

1. Are the 55w-rated HSFs used to cool the XM "Extreme Edition" chips (FRUs 04W0437, 04W1574, and 04W1575) compatible with the 45w chip in my machine, and...
2. ...If so, is it reasonable to assume that such a modification would allow the machine to run cooler and quieter?

And, lastly:

3. If the best plan is to continue to use my stock HSF, I'll need to replace the fan. There appear to be three fan FRUs for my machine. Is one among them superior to the others, or are they all functionally the same?

Thanks!
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Re: W520: Questions regarding heatsinks and fans.

#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:21 am

I would definitely buy the 04W1574 fan for that CPU.
It certainly fits all discrete gfx models.
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Re: W520: Questions regarding heatsinks and fans.

#3 Post by Surfrider » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:30 pm

Thanks for your suggestion, my friend. With your long history of contribution to the knowledge base here, I don't doubt that your recommendation is sound. However, would you mind sharing why you recommend that particular FRU (04W1574) over the other two options (04W0437 and 04W1575)? I've googled a little bit, but I'm having trouble discerning the difference between the three parts?

Again, thanks for your input. You're a real asset to the community here, and I appreciate your contributions.

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Re: W520: Questions regarding heatsinks and fans.

#4 Post by thinkpadcollection » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:00 pm

04W1574 is triple heatpipes for 55W rating and uses delta fan (nice quality), very specific to W520. W530 55W heatsink has different screw mounting pattern.

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Re: W520: Questions regarding heatsinks and fans.

#5 Post by theterminator93 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:15 pm

What's the difference between the 55W heatsink and 45W heatsink? I've looked up photos of the 55W heatsink and looked at the one I have, and they appear to be identical from a photographic vantagepoint...
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Re: W520: Questions regarding heatsinks and fans.

#6 Post by jcvjcvjcvjcv » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:26 pm

Which one do you have now and what Quadro / CPU did your W520 come with originally?

The 2860QM + Quadro 1000M I have in my (now broken down... awaiting new mobo...) W520 has three heatpipes.

On the sticker it says FRU PN:04W1576

I have yet to see a difference between pics of the 04W1574 and the 04W1576 I have. Just the fan?
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Re: W520: Questions regarding heatsinks and fans.

#7 Post by theterminator93 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:04 pm

The W520 I have was originally shipped with the i7-2860QM and Quadro 2000 (4284-A15 - despite what MTM lookup says that is the factory CPU - it has the Lenovo FRU label on it) - same 3 heatpipe design. I originally thought mine would have the same 45W heatsink P/N yours has - but when I removed the keyboard, to my surprise I saw I have the 55W 04W1574 heatsink. Photo: http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h30/t ... k0jqzm.jpg

I guess the ultimate test of what the difference (fan possibly?) measures up to would be to measure the same system/CPU under the same conditions while measuring temperatures, fan RPM, and (maybe) noise level.

Edit: If I tell TPFanControl to ramp the fan up to level 64 (max) I get 4650 RPM.
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Re: W520: Questions regarding heatsinks and fans.

#8 Post by jcvjcvjcvjcv » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:13 pm

I uninstalled TPFancontrol on my W520 years ago, when it randomly put my system to hibernate. Some issue with using both TPFancontrol and Lenovo Power Manager.
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#9 Post by theterminator93 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:33 pm

Supposedly version .63 fixes that - and adds support for the extra sensors on the 20 series that version .62 doesn't find.
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Re: W520: Questions regarding heatsinks and fans.

#10 Post by jcvjcvjcvjcv » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:00 pm

I'll check it once I got my W520 functioning again.

Another funny thing; the fan header has a connector for 6 pins, but only 4 are used. (PWM, RPM, +12V, GND, I guess). No idea why they picked a bigger 6-pin connector for that. Perhaps they intended in early design to implement two fans?
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