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Re-installed Win7 Pro on T520

#1 Post by MikalE » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:54 pm

Well, I gave it a test run. I installed Win10 Pro back in Jun17. I didn't realize it had been that long. I had to look up the post I made when I did the changeover.

I did not like the layout, the way MS hid certain functions or operations, the update issue, and several other complaints. But I did give it a chance.

I downloaded an .ISO for Win 7 Pro and reloaded it this morning. I saved all of my drivers and in particular the wi-fi driver in case everything else was junk. The install was seamless, it activated over the phone, and my T520 is up and running as good as new.

I'm downloading and installing updates currently, but have restricted any Windows 7 optional updates until I can find out which one screws up the Updater. I'm only downloading security, .Net Framework, and driver updates.

Does anyone here know that KB update number to avoid that screws up the Windows Update downloads?

I also have my KB telemetry list for those to hide so they do not get downloaded and the batch file to eliminate them in case one gets by.
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T510 i5 4384-DV7
T510 i7 4349-A64
T520 i7 4242-4UU(CTO)


T520: i7-2760QM(2.40GHz),16GB, 500GB SSD/500GB 7200 Drive, 1600x900, 1GB NVIDIA, DVDRW, Smartcard, media card, FPR, Win7 Pro64, whitelist BIOS, N 6300 AGN, German KB, BT 4.0.

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Re: Re-installed Win7 Pro on T520

#2 Post by MikalE » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:20 pm

I've discovered that my JBL Flip4 speaker now pairs and plays correctly via Bluetooth with Windows 7. Maybe MS issued a fix for this while I was toying with Windows 10. Or the correct drivers were finally created to allow Windows 7 to work with a stereo audio device.

Apple iTunes is now once again displaying the artist and song in the header while listening to streaming Antenne Bayern internet radio. It won't do this in Windows 10.

I also have all of my hotkey icons appearing on the screen once again. They would not work in Windows 10.
T500 T9600 2055-BE9
T510 i5 4384-DV7
T510 i7 4349-A64
T520 i7 4242-4UU(CTO)


T520: i7-2760QM(2.40GHz),16GB, 500GB SSD/500GB 7200 Drive, 1600x900, 1GB NVIDIA, DVDRW, Smartcard, media card, FPR, Win7 Pro64, whitelist BIOS, N 6300 AGN, German KB, BT 4.0.

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Re: Re-installed Win7 Pro on T520

#3 Post by axur-delmeria » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:47 am

MikalE wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:54 pm
Does anyone here know that KB update number to avoid that screws up the Windows Update downloads?
My "Windows Update speedup" folder contains http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3020369 and http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3172605.
IIRC the first one is what fixes/speeds up the "scanning for updates" part. The second one is simply the update rollup up to June 2016, probably superseded by newer update rollups.

For offline (no Internet) installations, I install this massive update after the first one mentioned earlier: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3125574. It's probably not what you need though, as it might contain those telemetry stuff.
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Re: Re-installed Win7 Pro on T520

#4 Post by MikalE » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:33 am

Thanks. I think I have it locked down now and there are currently no updates available. I think I hid around 15 or 20 updates. Now I will just have to inspect every one from now on that is offered.

I kept checking my JBL Flip4 Bluetooth speaker after each update to see if one of them, for whatever reason, had broken this function when the system had Win7 Pro as a factory install.

I don't really understand it, but the Bluetooth speaker is working just fine now.
T500 T9600 2055-BE9
T510 i5 4384-DV7
T510 i7 4349-A64
T520 i7 4242-4UU(CTO)


T520: i7-2760QM(2.40GHz),16GB, 500GB SSD/500GB 7200 Drive, 1600x900, 1GB NVIDIA, DVDRW, Smartcard, media card, FPR, Win7 Pro64, whitelist BIOS, N 6300 AGN, German KB, BT 4.0.

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Re: Re-installed Win7 Pro on T520

#5 Post by axur-delmeria » Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:00 am

MikalE wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:33 am
I don't really understand it, but the Bluetooth speaker is working just fine now.
Did you install the Thinkpad Bluetooth drivers, or just used what came with Windows 7?
Daily driver: X220 4291-C91 i7-2620M

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Re: Re-installed Win7 Pro on T520

#6 Post by MikalE » Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:50 am

They are the TP drivers from Broadcom dated 2013.

After trying everything I could to get the Bluetooth working with this speaker, I don't know how it's working now after a Win7 reload from scratch.

I tried every trick, every driver, even some that weren't even for Lenovo, and still it wouldn't work correctly.

I'm beginning to think some Windows update trashed the original TP driver and tried to update it with one that didn't work.

I've only read of a very few instances where Windows 7 Bluetooth was working correctly with a stereo audio device.
T500 T9600 2055-BE9
T510 i5 4384-DV7
T510 i7 4349-A64
T520 i7 4242-4UU(CTO)


T520: i7-2760QM(2.40GHz),16GB, 500GB SSD/500GB 7200 Drive, 1600x900, 1GB NVIDIA, DVDRW, Smartcard, media card, FPR, Win7 Pro64, whitelist BIOS, N 6300 AGN, German KB, BT 4.0.

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Re: Re-installed Win7 Pro on T520

#7 Post by Annecy » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:17 pm

MikalE wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:54 pm
"Does anyone here know that KB update number to avoid that screws up the Windows Update downloads?
"
Back in April(2018) ...
I "(re-)solved" a (personal :?:) T61 Win7Pro x86 UpdateCorruption mystery/problem ...
and have had in the back of my mind to post about it here ... @
TP.c:

Back in early 2017 I acquired a T61 14.1"ws (locally) through CL,
Shortly thereafter I had surgery ... and then spent a couple months in bed ...
I then began "updating"/configuring the T61 Win7 install ~
which was my first (ever) Win7 install/"machine" ...

Before the end of the year (2017), I noticed the following:
Image
I had no idea how/when the above (had) started :roll:
I searched ... the WWW ... & searched ... & searched ...
nothing I found/tried (ever) resolved the issue :evil:

SO ...
I "scrubbed" the install ... and re-installed a retail Win7Pro ...
This time ... aware of the above (potential) problem ...
and intent on & (I hoped) prepared to ...
immediately spot the problem upon onset,
recover (without re-installing)
& identify the source of the problem ...

Months went by ... without the above UpdateCorruption ... appearing ...
I had configured Win7 to launch the WindozeUpdate "window" with every boot-up ...
I also/always kept that WUwin open/minimized ...
& periodically "Checked for Updates" ...
I (had) also configured ERUnt to run @ every boot-up ...

Then ... one day in April(2018) ...
after I had applied a few updates through Lenovo System Update :eek:
upon the subsequent re-boot,
the Error Condition/Message returned :shock:
I immediately did an ERUnt registry restore ... and rebooted ...

Fortunately, the ERUnt registry restore did remove the Error Message/Condition :thumbs-UP:
I then set about identifying which Lenovo System Update was the culprit ...
& eventually indentified the guilty party as the following: :arrow:
Image
the Intel Matrix Storage Manager driver for Windows 32bit :SH!:

I don't know how/why ...
the Intel Matrix Storage Manager driver for Windows 32bit
would be directly linked to ("permanently") corrupting Windoze7 Updating :??:
HOWEVER, when I downloaded/installed JUST/ONLY that,
the Windoze UpdateCorruption returned :BAAAD!:
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Re: Re-installed Win7 Pro on T520

#8 Post by Annecy » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:30 pm

MikalE wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:50 am
"I've only read of a very few instances
where Windows 7 Bluetooth was working correctly with a stereo audio device.
"
I made one such post ... about how on my T61 14.1"ws
"Windows 7 Bluetooth was (finally :roll:) working correctly with a stereo audio device ..."
after considerable:banghead: trial&error :santa:
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Re: Re-installed Win7 Pro on T520

#9 Post by Annecy » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:56 pm

MikalE wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:54 pm
"I also have my KB telemetry list for those to hide so they do not get downloaded and
the batch file to eliminate them in case one gets by.
"
I'm (again/still) messing around with Windoze7 installs ...

I recently came across WWW-posting about ...
how to "slipstream" the (so-called) ConvenienceUpdate into the/a Windoze7.iso ...

I also recently came across the following WWW-post/ing ... about ...

Shutting down Telemetry "embedded" in the (so-called) ConvenienceUpdate

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Re: Re-installed Win7 Pro on T520

#10 Post by MikalE » Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:15 am

Thanks. I will check that out later this afternoon.
T500 T9600 2055-BE9
T510 i5 4384-DV7
T510 i7 4349-A64
T520 i7 4242-4UU(CTO)


T520: i7-2760QM(2.40GHz),16GB, 500GB SSD/500GB 7200 Drive, 1600x900, 1GB NVIDIA, DVDRW, Smartcard, media card, FPR, Win7 Pro64, whitelist BIOS, N 6300 AGN, German KB, BT 4.0.

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Re: Re-installed Win7 Pro on T520

#11 Post by MikalE » Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:39 am

I checked it out now and applied the recommended settings. Hopefully a future update doesn't turn all of that crap back on.
T500 T9600 2055-BE9
T510 i5 4384-DV7
T510 i7 4349-A64
T520 i7 4242-4UU(CTO)


T520: i7-2760QM(2.40GHz),16GB, 500GB SSD/500GB 7200 Drive, 1600x900, 1GB NVIDIA, DVDRW, Smartcard, media card, FPR, Win7 Pro64, whitelist BIOS, N 6300 AGN, German KB, BT 4.0.

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Re: Re-installed Win7 Pro on T520

#12 Post by MikalE » Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:54 pm

Ah, I now find out my printer is working normally again instead of having to restart the print spooler every time I want to print something while using Winows 10.
T500 T9600 2055-BE9
T510 i5 4384-DV7
T510 i7 4349-A64
T520 i7 4242-4UU(CTO)


T520: i7-2760QM(2.40GHz),16GB, 500GB SSD/500GB 7200 Drive, 1600x900, 1GB NVIDIA, DVDRW, Smartcard, media card, FPR, Win7 Pro64, whitelist BIOS, N 6300 AGN, German KB, BT 4.0.

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Re: Re-installed Win7 Pro on T520

#13 Post by MikalE » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:07 pm

Once again, Bluetooth has failed after a series of updates. All updates installed on the 26th were removed as it was after these updates that Bluetooth failed to connect.

After a restart it still would not connect. So, I'm thinking it was possibly another update I missed, or not even related to an update. I just don't understand why one day it works and then it won't connect the next.

Fortunately, this time I was able to install the Toshiba BT stack drivers and it is apparently working. It connected the first time and has stayed connected.

The last time I tried this, Windows would not allow this driver stack to be installed even after deleting the Broadcom drivers. I couldn't figure that one out either. This time I didn't even have to attempt deleting the Broadcom drivers.

The Device Manager though, still shows the Broadcom driver to be installed and there is no indication that the Toshiba drivers are there. Maybe the Toshiba driver only added A2DP functionality.

??????
T500 T9600 2055-BE9
T510 i5 4384-DV7
T510 i7 4349-A64
T520 i7 4242-4UU(CTO)


T520: i7-2760QM(2.40GHz),16GB, 500GB SSD/500GB 7200 Drive, 1600x900, 1GB NVIDIA, DVDRW, Smartcard, media card, FPR, Win7 Pro64, whitelist BIOS, N 6300 AGN, German KB, BT 4.0.

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