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WHY do all high speed W500 trip on over temp

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WHY do all high speed W500 trip on over temp

#1 Post by n2ri » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:41 am

I own 2 of these and have done all the tricks and TPFC etc and still they cant be counted on to run even an hour in use without shutting down. and the TPFC app wont stay in Manual on mode, soon as its selected it goes back to smart. and running in Bios mode just dont help much. seems the poor design using the T61 case/fan but adding screens that limit cool air intake while adding hotter CPU & GPU are just insurmountable to keep cool. its really bumming me out that I cant use better CPU and graphics plus other features like the cel SIM card modem which never fully got developed in the T61 series.

does anyone still have a dependable W500 2.8mhz with all features? or is that a myth. this and the much higher watts and non-back compatibility of prev model addons is why I gave up on a W520. I love my T61 units in 2.1mhz but the lower quality GPU and slower speeds and SIM modem are missed. however the T61 units will run fine over 14hrs still & no over temp issues.

heck in some ways My old 701c TP butterfly keyboard units I sold for over $200 each couple years ago were still way more reliable than the W500 TP units ever were.
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Re: WHY do all high speed W500 trip on over temp

#2 Post by N33dF0rSp33dFan » Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:25 am

Have you modified TPFanControl's settings properly? By default, if your CPU temp is higher than 90-95C, in either BIOS or Manual mode, it goes automatically to Smart mode.
I don't own a W500 anymore, but I know I fixed the issue by changing some of the settings in the .ini file of TPFC.
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Re: WHY do all high speed W500 trip on over temp

#3 Post by DaKKS » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:50 pm

Sure everything is fine with your cooling? Mine runs fine with a x9100 in dgpu only mode. It gets hot (low 90's) if i really push it, but never gets hot enough to pose an issue. I did replace the heatsink/fan with a N/OS one though.

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#4 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:43 am

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Re: WHY do all high speed W500 trip on over temp

#5 Post by TPFanatic » Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:36 pm

Stock thermal paste used on laptops of this age is long dried and should be reapplied properly with good stuff, Arctic Silver is good inexpensive, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut or Hydronaut is the best.

W500 also has a hot ATI OnFireGL V5700, if a driver isn't installed it will actively produce heat.

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Re: WHY do all high speed W500 trip on over temp

#6 Post by n2ri » Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:01 am

N33dF0rSp33dFan wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:25 am
Have you modified TPFanControl's settings properly? By default, if your CPU temp is higher than 90-95C, in either BIOS or Manual mode, it goes automatically to Smart mode.
I don't own a W500 anymore, but I know I fixed the issue by changing some of the settings in the .ini file of TPFC.
shows about 83c when it trips out

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Re: WHY do all high speed W500 trip on over temp

#7 Post by n2ri » Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:03 am

TPFanatic wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:36 pm
Stock thermal paste used on laptops of this age is long dried and should be reapplied properly with good stuff, Arctic Silver is good inexpensive, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut or Hydronaut is the best.

W500 also has a hot ATI OnFireGL V5700, if a driver isn't installed it will actively produce heat.
I done the heat paste on all mine and cleaned everything. fan speed gets to about 3400 max in manual but 3100 in smart mode. CPU is what seems to over heat on both my W500s, GPU is a couple degrees lower unless gaming hard then about same.
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Re: WHY do all high speed W500 trip on over temp

#8 Post by n2ri » Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:05 am

DaKKS wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:50 pm
Sure everything is fine with your cooling? Mine runs fine with a x9100 in dgpu only mode. It gets hot (low 90's) if i really push it, but never gets hot enough to pose an issue. I did replace the heatsink/fan with a N/OS one though.
mine both trip at about 83 and max fan speed in manual is 3400 lower in smart mode

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Re: WHY do all high speed W500 trip on over temp

#9 Post by TPFanatic » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:19 am

Edit tpfancontrol.ini to set Smart to run at 64 instead of 128. The program and its default settings are designed to quiet down T43 ThinkPads by lowering the fan speed from default. The W500 by default has a slow fan speed so the default settings are counterproductive.

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Re: WHY do all high speed W500 trip on over temp

#10 Post by 28CarsLater » Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:51 pm

W500 also has a hot ATI OnFireGL V5700, if a driver isn't installed it will actively produce heat.
I'm curious I wonder if this would also be the case in a GNU/Linux distro? Iwould think ATI didn't put out a non-Windows driver so something more generic would be used by the O/S and cause this issue.
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