W700 with two displays?

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megalosaurus · #1 Post by **megalosaurus** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:58 pm

If you go to the Lenovo site and select W700 17" widescreen for Professionals, one of the options listed is:

17" WUXGA 400NIT TFT+10.6"WXGA+ TFT [add $500.00] [New]
Selecting this option may delay your shipment more than 4 weeks.

I can't find anything that explains what this is. Although it shows as costing $500, clicking the radio button for it adds $9270 to the total purchase price. At $171.88 per square inch, that second display had better do something really spectacular.

Wilhelm · #2 Post by **Wilhelm** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:52 pm

For further informations file under:
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bi ... SAG08-0919
http://www.thinkpad-forum.de/thinkpad-h ... anschauen/ (unfortunately in German, only)
2 Pics:
http://www.thinkpad-forum.de/index.php? ... f300722b8e
http://www.thinkpad-forum.de/index.php? ... c00a96778c
A similar duo monitor solution:
http://monitor.samsung.de/produkte/deta ... dad8d52abd

basketb · #3 Post by **basketb** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:09 pm

There had been rumors regarding this several months ago (way before the W700 were officially announced). There were actually (what I presumed to be fake) pictures around but right now I can't find any of those anymore.

#4 Post by **JaneL** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:21 pm

basketb wrote:There were actually (what I presumed to be fake) pictures around but right now I can't find any of those anymore.

There's a link to a pic here -> http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=327778

megalosaurus · #5 Post by **megalosaurus** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:20 pm

It's gone from the website now. It looks like someone goofed.

3D_GuRu · #6 Post by **3D_GuRu** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:19 am

The side screen looks crazy!!!

The IBM site also says that the new W700 coming out at the beginning of next year will get the option of 4Gig stick Ram (so you can finally get an 8 Gig directly from Lenovo) and the compatibility of using Turbo Memory + Raid. No word on a 2 side button pen for the Wacom tablet...

basketb · #7 Post by **basketb** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:01 am

For the T400 they are actually already offering a single 4GB stick. However, right now you can't configure it with two 4GB sticks (though, I saw that option a few days ago).

QFoam · #8 Post by **QFoam** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:14 am

I was really disappointed that Lenovo removed the new W700 from their web site because, if you look closely at the German photo:

http://www.thinkpad-forum.de/thinkpad-h ... anschauen/

there's clearly a coffee pot that folds out from the left side of the display.

Thus the only thing missing is a new technology from NASA that converts urine to drinking water. With that, you could work and drink coffee non-stop for hours on end, with no need to get up to go to the bathroom or refill the coffee pot!

"I like to call it a coffee machine... It will take yesterday's coffee and turn it into today's coffee."
- astronaut Don Pettit

cayman · #9 Post by **cayman** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:09 pm

from what I saw, this type of W700 with dual display, they named it: W700ds

I think I might change my original order schedule

tinkererguy · #10 Post by **tinkererguy** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:39 pm

According to this Dec 2nd Lenovo Asia Pacific Hardware Announcement:
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bi ... SAG08-0919

In the pdf it links to, the W700ds in many countries (besides United States), see page 7:
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca ... 8-0919.PDF

QFoam · #11 Post by **QFoam** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:34 pm

tinkererguy wrote:In the pdf it links to, the W700ds in many countries (besides United States), see page 7:
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca ... 8-0919.PDF

Sure enough. If, for example, you go to Lenovo's Australian site:

http://www.lenovo.com/au/en/index.html

the secondary display option is available on the W700 configuration page:

Display type
17" WXGA+ TFT [subtract AUD$295.90]
17" WUXGA TFT
17" WUXGA + 10.6" WXGA+ TFT [add AUD$583.00]
Selecting this option may delay your shipment more than 4 weeks.

I suppose it might be handy for displaying floating palettes in Photoshop, for instance.

They also list two quad-core processor options on the configuration page:

Intel Core 2 Quad Core processor Q9100 (2.26GHz 1066MHz 12MBL2) [add AUD$687.43]
Intel Core 2 Quad Core Extreme processor QX9300 (2.53GHz 1066MHz 12MBL2) [add AUD$722.63]

and 4GB Turbo Memory:

Intel Turbo Memory hard drive cache
None
Intel Turbo Memory 1.6, 2GB [add AUD$110.00]
Intel Turbo Memory 1.7, 4GB [add AUD$211.20]

Note that they're apparently using version 1.7 of the Turbo Memory driver for the 4GB Turbo Memory card, vs. version 1.6 for the 2GB card.

tinkererguy · #12 Post by **tinkererguy** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:18 am

So QFoam, the question on the mind of those who already have W700s, how difficult is the surgery to add one of these new display assemblies after manufacture (looking at Hardware Maintenance Manual, doesn't appear too bad), and would it be remotely affordable.

Calibrating the second display for color temperature would be a real trick I'd think, as it even uses a different type of backlight source (LED). But yeah, I think the idea is great, I use multiple desktops when at home, and always miss them when working from hotel rooms. Now we know what all that excessive display thickness was really about, pretty amazing.

tinkererguy · #13 Post by **tinkererguy** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:46 am

I wonder if the 4GB turbo card and the Lenovo provided driver will allow pinning of applications (T61p and its turbo a year ago clearly don't).
http://www.intel.com/design/flash/nand/ ... /index.htm

Getting tough to find Intel Mini-PCI 4GB turbo cards aftermarket for some reason, about $85 USD, but they do work fine in T61p I've heard without BIOS hack or anything, so would probably also work in W700:
http://www.google.com/products?q=NVCPEM ... h+Products
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Intel-Turbo-Mem ... dZViewItem

For those with SSD drives the benefits would be marginal or non-existent (guessing here). Note also that Turbo Memory is now compatible with ICH9M RAID mode of W700, see summary of changes section for Turbo Memory driver here:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-67820

Here's a cut and paste:
Version 1.7.0.1029-8.6.0.1007
(New) Support for RAID mode.
(New) Support for 4GB card.

Wilhelm · #14 Post by **Wilhelm** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:11 pm

Does anyone know why LENOVO don´t (yet) offer SSDs for any RAID configuration?

sethstorm · #15 Post by **sethstorm** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:32 am

Great. Display mediocrity - multiplied.

At least the A31p had Flexview and dual media bays. While it was big, it was quite expandable.

So this is what we get for them not acquiring a manufacturer of AFFS/S-IPS panels.

tinkererguy · #16 Post by **tinkererguy** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:33 am

More confirmation (and pricing estimates) here:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/155860/l ... k=rss_news

beGi · #17 Post by **beGi** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:44 pm

Few more pics here, various angles and both displays are on... The Beast...

bluewale · #18 Post by **bluewale** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:13 pm

Although I won't buy a W700. I love to see Lenovo trying new things.

mattbiernat · #19 Post by **mattbiernat** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:22 pm

why not just make 19" display?

3D_GuRu · #20 Post by **3D_GuRu** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:33 pm

Totally agree with mattbiernat. There's enough space between the screen and the edge to have a 19" screen on the W700.

Also I should say that even tough I do not use the W700 for just Photoshop (mostly 3D stuff), the screen itself is pretty average and with the brightness at max, there's a terrible halo at the bottom of the screen (and not just in my machine, other people have the same issue). Making the brightness lower, resolves the issue but it's impossible to see a thing at those brightness values.

Anyone trying to use the W700 as a pro photographer as Lenovo tries to market this laptop to, should be away from it!

comptiger5000 · #21 Post by **comptiger5000** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:23 am

Looking at those pics, the W700 screen (primary at least, secondary looks a little better) is worse than my W500 screen (which isn't bad for a TN laptop, and has pretty good color with tweaking).

#22 Post by **underclocker** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:51 pm

This thing needs triple displays!

Pop one out on each side of the 17" LCD - why not!

Now that would be nice. What's another pound?

comptiger5000 · #23 Post by **comptiger5000** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:05 pm

I agree. They could probably lighten the whole thing a bit. The old T30s were big and thick, but had very little weight for their size. Weighs less than my W500.

beGi · #24 Post by **beGi** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:17 am

W700ds review, powerful and expensive, just as expected...

arlab · #25 Post by **arlab** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:41 pm

beGi wrote:W700ds review, powerful and expensive, just as expected...

First time I see the blue digipen wallpaper.
Anyone wants to share it.

Rich.Carpenter · #26 Post by **Rich.Carpenter** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:45 pm

mattbiernat wrote:why not just make 19" display?

A 19" display wouldn't provide any more screen real estate than the 17" (WUXGA+ is WUXGA+, whether it's on a 17" or 27" display, after all). As a software developer who is forced to use two monitors to get that much-needed extra desktop space, this is definitely and awesome feature, and I am thrilled to see it.

comptiger5000 · #27 Post by **comptiger5000** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:57 pm

Well, maybe for the truly crazy, they could do a 19" at 2560x1600 (WQXGA)...

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