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W700 with two displays?
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:58 pm
by megalosaurus
If you go to the Lenovo site and select W700 17" widescreen for Professionals, one of the options listed is:
17" WUXGA 400NIT TFT+10.6"WXGA+ TFT [add $500.00] [New]
Selecting this option may delay your shipment more than 4 weeks.
I can't find anything that explains what this is. Although it shows as costing $500, clicking the radio button for it adds $9270 to the total purchase price. At $171.88 per square inch, that second display had better do something really spectacular.
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:52 pm
by Wilhelm
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:09 pm
by basketb
There had been rumors regarding this several months ago (way before the W700 were officially announced). There were actually (what I presumed to be fake) pictures around but right now I can't find any of those anymore.
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:21 pm
by JaneL
basketb wrote:There were actually (what I presumed to be fake) pictures around but right now I can't find any of those anymore.
There's a link to a pic here ->
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=327778
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:20 pm
by megalosaurus
It's gone from the website now. It looks like someone goofed.
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:19 am
by 3D_GuRu
The side screen looks crazy!!!

The IBM site also says that the new W700 coming out at the beginning of next year will get the option of 4Gig stick Ram (so you can finally get an 8 Gig directly from Lenovo) and the compatibility of using Turbo Memory + Raid. No word on a 2 side button pen for the Wacom tablet...
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:01 am
by basketb
For the T400 they are actually already offering a single 4GB stick. However, right now you can't configure it with two 4GB sticks (though, I saw that option a few days ago).
Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:14 am
by QFoam
I was really disappointed that Lenovo removed the new W700 from their web site because, if you look closely at the German photo:
http://www.thinkpad-forum.de/thinkpad-h ... anschauen/
there's clearly a coffee pot that folds out from the left side of the display.
Thus the only thing missing is a
new technology from NASA that converts urine to drinking water. With that, you could work and drink coffee non-stop for hours on end, with no need to get up to go to the bathroom or refill the coffee pot!
"I like to call it a coffee machine... It will take yesterday's coffee and turn it into today's coffee."
- astronaut Don Pettit
Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:09 pm
by cayman
from what I saw, this type of W700 with dual display, they named it:
W700ds
I think I might change my original order schedule

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:39 pm
by tinkererguy
According to this Dec 2nd Lenovo Asia Pacific Hardware Announcement:
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bi ... SAG08-0919
In the pdf it links to, the W700ds in many countries (besides United States), see page 7:
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca ... 8-0919.PDF
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:34 pm
by QFoam
Sure enough. If, for example, you go to Lenovo's Australian site:
http://www.lenovo.com/au/en/index.html
the secondary display option is available on the W700 configuration page:
Display type
17" WXGA+ TFT [subtract AUD$295.90]
17" WUXGA TFT
17" WUXGA + 10.6" WXGA+ TFT [add AUD$583.00]
Selecting this option may delay your shipment more than 4 weeks.
I suppose it might be handy for displaying floating palettes in Photoshop, for instance.
They also list two quad-core processor options on the configuration page:
Intel Core 2 Quad Core processor Q9100 (2.26GHz 1066MHz 12MBL2) [add AUD$687.43]
Intel Core 2 Quad Core Extreme processor QX9300 (2.53GHz 1066MHz 12MBL2) [add AUD$722.63]
and 4GB Turbo Memory:
Intel Turbo Memory hard drive cache
None
Intel Turbo Memory 1.6, 2GB [add AUD$110.00]
Intel Turbo Memory 1.7, 4GB [add AUD$211.20]
Note that they're apparently using version 1.7 of the Turbo Memory driver for the 4GB Turbo Memory card, vs. version 1.6 for the 2GB card.
Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:18 am
by tinkererguy
So QFoam, the question on the mind of those who already have W700s, how difficult is the surgery to add one of these new display assemblies after manufacture (looking at Hardware Maintenance Manual, doesn't appear too bad), and would it be remotely affordable.
Calibrating the second display for color temperature would be a real trick I'd think, as it even uses a different type of backlight source (LED). But yeah, I think the idea is great, I use multiple desktops when at home, and always miss them when working from hotel rooms. Now we know what all that excessive display thickness was really about, pretty amazing.
Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:46 am
by tinkererguy
I wonder if the 4GB turbo card and the Lenovo provided driver will allow pinning of applications (T61p and its turbo a year ago clearly don't).
http://www.intel.com/design/flash/nand/ ... /index.htm
Getting tough to find Intel Mini-PCI 4GB turbo cards aftermarket for some reason, about $85 USD, but they do work fine in T61p I've heard without BIOS hack or anything, so would probably also work in W700:
http://www.google.com/products?q=NVCPEM ... h+Products
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Intel-Turbo-Mem ... dZViewItem
For those with SSD drives the benefits would be marginal or non-existent (guessing here). Note also that Turbo Memory is now compatible with ICH9M RAID mode of W700, see summary of changes section for Turbo Memory driver here:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-67820
Here's a cut and paste:
Version 1.7.0.1029-8.6.0.1007
(New) Support for RAID mode.
(New) Support for 4GB card.
Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:11 pm
by Wilhelm
Does anyone know why LENOVO don´t (yet) offer SSDs for any RAID configuration?
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:32 am
by sethstorm
Great. Display mediocrity - multiplied.
At least the A31p had Flexview and dual media bays. While it was big, it was quite expandable.
So this is what we get for them not acquiring a manufacturer of AFFS/S-IPS panels.
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:33 am
by tinkererguy
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:44 pm
by beGi
Few more pics
here, various angles and both displays are on... The Beast...
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:13 pm
by bluewale
Although I won't buy a W700. I love to see Lenovo trying new things.
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:22 pm
by mattbiernat
why not just make 19" display?
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:33 pm
by 3D_GuRu
Totally agree with mattbiernat. There's enough space between the screen and the edge to have a 19" screen on the W700.
Also I should say that even tough I do not use the W700 for just Photoshop (mostly 3D stuff), the screen itself is pretty average and with the brightness at max, there's a terrible halo at the bottom of the screen (and not just in my machine, other people have the same issue). Making the brightness lower, resolves the issue but it's impossible to see a thing at those brightness values.
Anyone trying to use the W700 as a pro photographer as Lenovo tries to market this laptop to, should be away from it!
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:23 am
by comptiger5000
Looking at those pics, the W700 screen (primary at least, secondary looks a little better) is worse than my W500 screen (which isn't bad for a TN laptop, and has pretty good color with tweaking).
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:51 pm
by underclocker
This thing needs triple displays!
Pop one out on each side of the 17" LCD - why not!
Now that would be nice. What's another pound?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:05 pm
by comptiger5000
I agree. They could probably lighten the whole thing a bit. The old T30s were big and thick, but had very little weight for their size. Weighs less than my W500.
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:17 am
by beGi
W700ds review, powerful and expensive, just as expected...
Re:
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:41 pm
by arlab
beGi wrote:W700ds review, powerful and expensive, just as expected...
First time I see the blue digipen wallpaper.
Anyone wants to share it.

Re:
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:45 pm
by Rich.Carpenter
mattbiernat wrote:why not just make 19" display?
A 19" display wouldn't provide any more screen real estate than the 17" (WUXGA+ is WUXGA+, whether it's on a 17" or 27" display, after all). As a software developer who is forced to use two monitors to get that much-needed extra desktop space, this is definitely and awesome feature, and I am thrilled to see it.
Re: W700 with two displays?
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:57 pm
by comptiger5000
Well, maybe for the truly crazy, they could do a 19" at 2560x1600 (WQXGA)...