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A31p desirability?

#1 Post by manmanmanman » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:50 pm

Ive recently come into possession of an IBM A31p, and Im wondering how desirable/tradable is it? Probably the most interesting thinkpad I've owned too :D
ATM: X200s, A31p, T40, T410
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Re: A31p desirability?

#2 Post by ajkula66 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:50 pm

manmanmanman wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:50 pm
Ive recently come into possession of an IBM A31p, and Im wondering how desirable/tradable is it?
If it's in good overall condition, with no screen flaws and/or GPU issues, I'd say it's quite desirable. Don't think that I would know how to value one if I had to put a price tag on it, though.
Probably the most interesting thinkpad I've owned too :D
My favourite one of them all, even today.

On a completely unrelated note, if you happen to have a spare working A3x keyboard with a Slovenian layout, I'd be very interested in obtaining it... :D
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Re: A31p desirability?

#3 Post by manmanmanman » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:58 pm

Heh, I have a complete A31p, with dock. Screen is nice and bright (sadly has a small dark spot, 0.2x0.2cm, but picture underneath is visible), no GPU flaws as of yet and overall in great condition with a 2.0GHz pentium. Keyboard is slovenian, but its a little worn. IDK about selling it, but if you are interested shoot me a PM and we can work something out :)
ATM: X200s, A31p, T40, T410
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Re: A31p desirability?

#4 Post by wujstefan » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:44 pm

I'd keep it being in your skin.

This system has become expensive these days, and the UXGA version will only gain in value.
It's not as desirable as 701C, but has its value to us, thinkfreaks. IMO the best built TP I've ever owned.

These systems unfortunately are prone to GPU and mobo failures. And the UXGA ages poorly.
It's hard to put a price tag on systems that are meant for hobbists, but I'd say around $200-250 if the shape is right, and it does and will increase over time as A31p is one of the flag products, and a must-have in most collector's handbook.

I own 2. I will sell neither to nobody. I'm closer being buried with them in my hands. And this comes from someone who would sell you any of his systems if the price is right.
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Re: A31p desirability?

#5 Post by MikalE » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:00 pm

I've always desired an A31 or A31p, but have never bought one. I just don't know what I would use it for that four T series Thinkpads can't cover.
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Re: A31p desirability?

#6 Post by Hierax_ca » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:21 pm

A31p is Very desirable! One of the best Thinkpad models ever made, IMO. So good in so many ways!

I'm still running A31p today with Windows 2000, Linux antiX/MX 17.1 all working great!
Toshiba (93-98): t3400(ct), 3600ct, 610ct, 620ct, 660cdt, 490xcdt, 780cdm/dvd

IBM (95-06): 701c*(s) Butterfly, 600(e,x*), A31p*, T43(S*, p,+pS*)

Lenovo (07-12): t60h, T601pF*, x60t+, x61t+*,
W500, W700(ds), W701, x301*, x200t, x220t, x220*, W520*

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Re: A31p desirability?

#7 Post by kfzhu1229 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:12 am

Does the A30p receive similar levels of desirability, since A30p has a more practical Pentium III processor that wears components much less than P4-M, and that nearly everything else are the same?
I have an A30p and an A31p, with the A30p being my personal collection and the A31p eating dirt (with RAM slot issues).
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Re: A31p desirability?

#8 Post by ajkula66 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:39 am

kfzhu1229 wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:12 am
Does the A30p receive similar levels of desirability, since A30p has a more practical Pentium III processor that wears components much less than P4-M, and that nearly everything else are the same?
That's a tough one.

I would *presume* that a fully working, top-shelf (factory wi-fi and BT) A30p would be as desirable as a comparable A31p, but really have no data to back that claim up. TBT, I can't even recall when I last saw a working A30p, but it was a long time ago.
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Re: A31p desirability?

#9 Post by Whitieiii » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:15 am

I myself own an A30 and it's not in the best of shape but it works... it's one nice computer won't give it up so fast but I'm also looking for a simmilar spec HP as well so I don't really know
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Re: A31p desirability?

#10 Post by shawross » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:35 am

I bought a A31 from a weekend market for $3 and with my A30 which needed some work I made 1 decent machine,

My A31 is a 15 inch XGA and is not something you would put on your lap. It is like the dock is built in and they were referred to as desktop replacements at the time.

I like having the 3 spindles and although it came with XP I am running Win 98 SE so it doesn't get stretched.

Are they desirable or not well yes but probably to a select market.

Personally I keep an eye out for a X20 series but as we all know nice condition older Thinkpads will get more scarce if they're not already.
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Re: A31p desirability?

#11 Post by manmanmanman » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:06 am

Could trading an A31p for a W70* be resonable (I could prob offer some money with it). W70* is my dream thinkpad (non ds), and Ive been on a lookout for one for so long.
Cheers! :D
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Re: A31p desirability?

#12 Post by ajkula66 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:29 am

manmanmanman wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:06 am
Could trading an A31p for a W70* be resonable (I could prob offer some money with it). W70* is my dream thinkpad (non ds), and Ive been on a lookout for one for so long.
Cheers! :D
In my opinion - and you'll have difficulty finding a bigger A31p buff than myself - that's a stretch. W70* were rare to begin with and are still useful ad daily drivers so most people won't part with them all that easily.

Maybe things will even out in a couple of years. Maybe not.

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Re: A31p desirability?

#13 Post by wujstefan » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:52 am

... you can, however, PM me. I do have a W700 I may be willing to part with (sees no usage) with 230W power adapter (rare&very expensive). Too slow for my work needs (I'm a CAD designer), do not need it for my regular/home use (ol' good Frankie does its job), so if the hands are loving I may let it go.

Not the best shape, but fully working.

EDIT: not to mention the Slovenia is pretty close to Poland where the system is located ;)
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Re: A31p desirability?

#14 Post by kfzhu1229 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:34 pm

ajkula66 wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:39 am
I would *presume* that a fully working, top-shelf (factory wi-fi and BT) A30p would be as desirable as a comparable A31p, but really have no data to back that claim up. TBT, I can't even recall when I last saw a working A30p, but it was a long time ago.
Well I salvaged an A30 for free, in excellent physical condition (no cracks anywhere). Then I swapped the lid with WiFi + UXGA one from an A31p and then sold the A31p.
Then I swapped the CPU and motherboard with an A30p one since I found that rare beast on eBay for cheap 2 years ago.
So right now it's in every way a fully functional A30p, except that the type number doesn't match, and the screen is still yellowed and with dirt inside (backlight replaced and fully working)
The WiFi card is a brand new Intel 2200bg (old stock) and works with no hiccups at all.
The battery is replaced with a brand new one from Canada Computers 2 years ago and still holds at least one hour of charge.
I guess I won't be selling mine, but its nice to know that it's still collectible - as long as I kept its condition intact.
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Re: A31p desirability?

#15 Post by Hierax_ca » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:13 am

FWIW, another point of desirability for an A31p is it can actually use a decently huge Hard Drive! I just did successful installs on a 250gb and a 500gb mSATA SSD in an Aleratec adapter (I tried pushing it further but, sadly, a 1TB mSATA wouldn't boot) (specific A31p = 2653-R4U using BIOS 1.10 2006-10-19). Pretty impressive for a 2003 laptop!
Toshiba (93-98): t3400(ct), 3600ct, 610ct, 620ct, 660cdt, 490xcdt, 780cdm/dvd

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Lenovo (07-12): t60h, T601pF*, x60t+, x61t+*,
W500, W700(ds), W701, x301*, x200t, x220t, x220*, W520*

Mac (04+11): iMac G4 20", MacBook Pro 17"

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