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A31p desirability?

#1 Post by manmanmanman » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:50 pm

Ive recently come into possession of an IBM A31p, and Im wondering how desirable/tradable is it? Probably the most interesting thinkpad I've owned too :D
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Re: A31p desirability?

#2 Post by ajkula66 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:50 pm

manmanmanman wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:50 pm
Ive recently come into possession of an IBM A31p, and Im wondering how desirable/tradable is it?
If it's in good overall condition, with no screen flaws and/or GPU issues, I'd say it's quite desirable. Don't think that I would know how to value one if I had to put a price tag on it, though.
Probably the most interesting thinkpad I've owned too :D
My favourite one of them all, even today.

On a completely unrelated note, if you happen to have a spare working A3x keyboard with a Slovenian layout, I'd be very interested in obtaining it... :D
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Re: A31p desirability?

#3 Post by manmanmanman » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:58 pm

Heh, I have a complete A31p, with dock. Screen is nice and bright (sadly has a small dark spot, 0.2x0.2cm, but picture underneath is visible), no GPU flaws as of yet and overall in great condition with a 2.0GHz pentium. Keyboard is slovenian, but its a little worn. IDK about selling it, but if you are interested shoot me a PM and we can work something out :)
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Re: A31p desirability?

#4 Post by wujstefan » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:44 pm

I'd keep it being in your skin.

This system has become expensive these days, and the UXGA version will only gain in value.
It's not as desirable as 701C, but has its value to us, thinkfreaks. IMO the best built TP I've ever owned.

These systems unfortunately are prone to GPU and mobo failures. And the UXGA ages poorly.
It's hard to put a price tag on systems that are meant for hobbists, but I'd say around $200-250 if the shape is right, and it does and will increase over time as A31p is one of the flag products, and a must-have in most collector's handbook.

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Re: A31p desirability?

#5 Post by MikalE » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:00 pm

I've always desired an A31 or A31p, but have never bought one. I just don't know what I would use it for that four T series Thinkpads can't cover.
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Re: A31p desirability?

#6 Post by Hierax_ca » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:21 pm

A31p is Very desirable! One of the best Thinkpad models ever made, IMO. So good in so many ways!

I'm still running A31p today with Windows 2000, Linux antiX/MX 17.1 all working great!
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Re: A31p desirability?

#7 Post by kfzhu1229 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:12 am

Does the A30p receive similar levels of desirability, since A30p has a more practical Pentium III processor that wears components much less than P4-M, and that nearly everything else are the same?
I have an A30p and an A31p, with the A30p being my personal collection and the A31p eating dirt (with RAM slot issues).
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Re: A31p desirability?

#8 Post by ajkula66 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:39 am

kfzhu1229 wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:12 am
Does the A30p receive similar levels of desirability, since A30p has a more practical Pentium III processor that wears components much less than P4-M, and that nearly everything else are the same?
That's a tough one.

I would *presume* that a fully working, top-shelf (factory wi-fi and BT) A30p would be as desirable as a comparable A31p, but really have no data to back that claim up. TBT, I can't even recall when I last saw a working A30p, but it was a long time ago.
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Re: A31p desirability?

#9 Post by Whitieiii » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:15 am

I myself own an A30 and it's not in the best of shape but it works... it's one nice computer won't give it up so fast but I'm also looking for a simmilar spec HP as well so I don't really know
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Re: A31p desirability?

#10 Post by shawross » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:35 am

I bought a A31 from a weekend market for $3 and with my A30 which needed some work I made 1 decent machine,

My A31 is a 15 inch XGA and is not something you would put on your lap. It is like the dock is built in and they were referred to as desktop replacements at the time.

I like having the 3 spindles and although it came with XP I am running Win 98 SE so it doesn't get stretched.

Are they desirable or not well yes but probably to a select market.

Personally I keep an eye out for a X20 series but as we all know nice condition older Thinkpads will get more scarce if they're not already.
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Re: A31p desirability?

#11 Post by manmanmanman » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:06 am

Could trading an A31p for a W70* be resonable (I could prob offer some money with it). W70* is my dream thinkpad (non ds), and Ive been on a lookout for one for so long.
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Re: A31p desirability?

#12 Post by ajkula66 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:29 am

manmanmanman wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:06 am
Could trading an A31p for a W70* be resonable (I could prob offer some money with it). W70* is my dream thinkpad (non ds), and Ive been on a lookout for one for so long.
Cheers! :D
In my opinion - and you'll have difficulty finding a bigger A31p buff than myself - that's a stretch. W70* were rare to begin with and are still useful ad daily drivers so most people won't part with them all that easily.

Maybe things will even out in a couple of years. Maybe not.

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Re: A31p desirability?

#13 Post by wujstefan » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:52 am

... you can, however, PM me. I do have a W700 I may be willing to part with (sees no usage) with 230W power adapter (rare&very expensive). Too slow for my work needs (I'm a CAD designer), do not need it for my regular/home use (ol' good Frankie does its job), so if the hands are loving I may let it go.

Not the best shape, but fully working.

EDIT: not to mention the Slovenia is pretty close to Poland where the system is located ;)
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Re: A31p desirability?

#14 Post by kfzhu1229 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:34 pm

ajkula66 wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:39 am
I would *presume* that a fully working, top-shelf (factory wi-fi and BT) A30p would be as desirable as a comparable A31p, but really have no data to back that claim up. TBT, I can't even recall when I last saw a working A30p, but it was a long time ago.
Well I salvaged an A30 for free, in excellent physical condition (no cracks anywhere). Then I swapped the lid with WiFi + UXGA one from an A31p and then sold the A31p.
Then I swapped the CPU and motherboard with an A30p one since I found that rare beast on eBay for cheap 2 years ago.
So right now it's in every way a fully functional A30p, except that the type number doesn't match, and the screen is still yellowed and with dirt inside (backlight replaced and fully working)
The WiFi card is a brand new Intel 2200bg (old stock) and works with no hiccups at all.
The battery is replaced with a brand new one from Canada Computers 2 years ago and still holds at least one hour of charge.
I guess I won't be selling mine, but its nice to know that it's still collectible - as long as I kept its condition intact.
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Re: A31p desirability?

#15 Post by Hierax_ca » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:13 am

FWIW, another point of desirability for an A31p is it can actually use a decently huge Hard Drive! I just did successful installs on a 250gb and a 500gb mSATA SSD in an Aleratec adapter (I tried pushing it further but, sadly, a 1TB mSATA wouldn't boot) (specific A31p = 2653-R4U using BIOS 1.10 2006-10-19). Pretty impressive for a 2003 laptop!
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Re: A31p desirability?

#16 Post by manmanmanman » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:36 pm

Hierax_ca wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:13 am
FWIW, another point of desirability for an A31p is it can actually use a decently huge Hard Drive! I just did successful installs on a 250gb and a 500gb mSATA SSD in an Aleratec adapter (I tried pushing it further but, sadly, a 1TB mSATA wouldn't boot) (specific A31p = 2653-R4U using BIOS 1.10 2006-10-19). Pretty impressive for a 2003 laptop!
Did not know that, very interesting. Does an SSD make a significant speed difference in a machine of this age?
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Re: A31p desirability?

#17 Post by MikalE » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:40 pm

In addition to my first post on this subject, the real reason i wanted one was because it was the first certified laptop to go into space aboard the STS. I wanted to perform the same mods that were done to these to make them flight-ready.
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Re: A31p desirability?

#18 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:41 pm

manmanmanman wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:36 pm
Hierax_ca wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:13 am
FWIW, another point of desirability for an A31p is it can actually use a decently huge Hard Drive! I just did successful installs on a 250gb and a 500gb mSATA SSD in an Aleratec adapter (I tried pushing it further but, sadly, a 1TB mSATA wouldn't boot) (specific A31p = 2653-R4U using BIOS 1.10 2006-10-19). Pretty impressive for a 2003 laptop!
Did not know that, very interesting. Does an SSD make a significant speed difference in a machine of this age?
Tried an SSD in a T42 and can confirm it is wicked fast for calculation a drunk kitty could do.

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Re: A31p desirability?

#19 Post by axur-delmeria » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:14 pm

IMO anything with a fast link between northbridge and southbridge (i.e. Intel Hub Architecture) has a good chance of benefiting from an SSD.
OTOH I've yet to try an SSD on anything that doesn't have SATA ports.
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Re: A31p desirability?

#20 Post by ajkula66 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:29 pm

manmanmanman wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:36 pm

Did not know that, very interesting. Does an SSD make a significant speed difference in a machine of this age?
You may find this thread interesting...

/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=115478
MikalE wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:40 pm
In addition to my first post on this subject, the real reason i wanted one was because it was the first certified laptop to go into space aboard the STS. I wanted to perform the same mods that were done to these to make them flight-ready
There's a couple of A31p units on this forum that were retired from the program...with mods already in place, if I remember correctly...
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Re: A31p desirability?

#21 Post by manmanmanman » Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:09 pm

ajkula66 wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:29 pm
manmanmanman wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:36 pm

Did not know that, very interesting. Does an SSD make a significant speed difference in a machine of this age?
You may find this thread interesting...

/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=115478
MikalE wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:40 pm
In addition to my first post on this subject, the real reason i wanted one was because it was the first certified laptop to go into space aboard the STS. I wanted to perform the same mods that were done to these to make them flight-ready
There's a couple of A31p units on this forum that were retired from the program...with mods already in place, if I remember correctly...
Woa thats pretty cool....Also got my hands on an A31 now (originally to replace something on the A31p, but it didnt have it sadly), and im noticing quite a few differences; the A31 is thinner but appears to be more solid. Also the SXGA+ screen which isnt supposed to be IPS looks excellent :o
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Re: A31p desirability?

#22 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:26 pm

manmanmanman wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:09 pm
Woa thats pretty cool....Also got my hands on an A31 now (originally to replace something on the A31p, but it didnt have it sadly), and im noticing quite a few differences; the A31 is thinner but appears to be more solid. Also the SXGA+ screen which isnt supposed to be IPS looks excellent :o
1: Maybe the LCD is thinner. The IPS displays needed to be thicker.
2: Picked a really bad display to like. That Samsung Panel has a really nasty habit of the LCD having issues that seems like it is a cable issue but it isn't. Will have issues where depending on how you angle the display it will just display random lines or sometimes the proper picture. Very unique failure mode, but if you cross your fingers you can generally get it to a usable point. If the IBM logo comes up with only a few vertical lines the machine will likely display just fine. If it doesn't even boot to a viewable display, it will just be rainbow colored static for other stuff.
Mine has this problem.
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Re: A31p desirability?

#23 Post by manmanmanman » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:31 pm

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:26 pm
manmanmanman wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:09 pm
Woa thats pretty cool....Also got my hands on an A31 now (originally to replace something on the A31p, but it didnt have it sadly), and im noticing quite a few differences; the A31 is thinner but appears to be more solid. Also the SXGA+ screen which isnt supposed to be IPS looks excellent :o
1: Maybe the LCD is thinner. The IPS displays needed to be thicker.
2: Picked a really bad display to like. That Samsung Panel has a really nasty habit of the LCD having issues that seems like it is a cable issue but it isn't. Will have issues where depending on how you angle the display it will just display random lines or sometimes the proper picture. Very unique failure mode, but if you cross your fingers you can generally get it to a usable point. If the IBM logo comes up with only a few vertical lines the machine will likely display just fine. If it doesn't even boot to a viewable display, it will just be rainbow colored static for other stuff.
Mine has this problem.
Mine appears to be fine (thankfully), and yea the display seems thinner. Lids are slightly different too. Also has a "Encrypted by utimaco" sticker, was prob encrypted out of the factory?

Looks like its an SXGA+ Flexview screen. Score!
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Re: A31p desirability?

#24 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:40 pm

Probably is.

Also, you can configure the A31 to be stock with a Flexview SXGA+ panel.
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Re: A31p desirability?

#25 Post by manmanmanman » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:43 pm

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:40 pm
Probably is.

Also, you can configure the A31 to be stock with a Flexview SXGA+ panel.
Yea they came with the Flexview option out of the factory iirc. No wonder it looks so nice :lol:
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Re: A31p desirability?

#26 Post by ajkula66 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:54 pm

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:26 pm

2: Picked a really bad display to like. That Samsung Panel has a really nasty habit of the LCD having issues that seems like it is a cable issue but it isn't.
A couple of things here...

A30 and A31 were amongst very rare - if not the only - ThinkPads where SXGA+ was offered as both TN and IPS, with cables to match no less.

If my recollection (without digging through the net) serves me right, the IPS panel was made by ID Tech. It appeared on higher-end models such as Q3U and Q5U.

As for the lids...IDK...I've never noticed the different in thickness, and I haven't always been this old and near-sighted... :twisted:
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Re: A31p desirability?

#27 Post by manmanmanman » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:04 pm

ajkula66 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:54 pm
Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:26 pm

2: Picked a really bad display to like. That Samsung Panel has a really nasty habit of the LCD having issues that seems like it is a cable issue but it isn't.
A couple of things here...

A30 and A31 were amongst very rare - if not the only - ThinkPads where SXGA+ was offered as both TN and IPS, with cables to match no less.

If my recollection (without digging through the net) serves me right, the IPS panel was made by ID Tech. It appeared on higher-end models such as Q3U and Q5U.

As for the lids...IDK...I've never noticed the different in thickness, and I haven't always been this old and near-sighted... :twisted:
A31p has a "grippy rough" texture on the side of the lid, and looking closer at the heatsink vents it looks a little bit thinner.
There is no way for me to verify the manufacturer, but it has a SXGA+ display, and looking at it side to side with an A31p ....it is no doubts an IPS panel. Machine type reveals its XGA, but it appears as if the screen had been swapped (or the entire lid at that).
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Re: A31p desirability?

#28 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:09 pm

ajkula66 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:54 pm
A30 and A31 were amongst very rare - if not the only - ThinkPads where SXGA+ was offered as both TN and IPS, with cables to match no less.
Just checked, unless you count special order from IBM, are the only ones.
ajkula66 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:54 pm
If my recollection (without digging through the net) serves me right, the IPS panel was made by ID Tech. It appeared on higher-end models such as Q3U and Q5U.
OT: People I know keep mention the IDTech camps for teaching kids programming but the first thing I think of is IDTech LCD screens. :lol:
ajkula66 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:54 pm
As for the lids...IDK...I've never noticed the different in thickness, and I haven't always been this old and near-sighted... :twisted:
I have the a TN one and I can tell you it is a brick. Don't have a A31p to compare to but I don't think IBM would have made a thinner. I think it is like the difference between the modern T450/60/70/80 and their s counterparts. They just took it and put it in a hydraulic press and pushed it down a half-millimeter.(Well knowing Lenovo probably just some air in the mold to save on plastic.)
@manmanmanman
If you could post pics of the size difference?
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Re: A31p desirability?

#29 Post by manmanmanman » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:17 pm

@Thinkpad4by3
Pardon the bad pictures, they were taken by my phone and feature [censored] lighting. A31 on top
https://my.mixtape.moe/gnkqbe.jpg
https://my.mixtape.moe/lmaggz.jpg
LARGE IMAGES!
ATM: X200s, A31p, T40, T410, A31, T42p
RIP: T61, R52, T41x2, X61s, T500, T42

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Re: A31p desirability?

#30 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:09 pm

Besides the ribs on the A31p on the side of the machine by the front, I don't see a difference.
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The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.

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