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ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
This R60 15.0" FrankenPad uses the semi-rare ThinkPad R61i (15.0" 4:3 - Model type: 8943-DSG) Intel 965GM System board with GMA x3100 graphics - FRU: 44C3810 - Middleton BIOS and 15.0" SXGA+ FlexView IPS LCD Panel
Picture link ---> R60 & R61i System boards - R61i 15.0" 4:3 System board mounted within the R60 structure frame is a perfect fit and therefore interchangeable
Picture link ---> R60 FrankenPad
This was one of easiest FrankenPads to put together as it basically involves just a System board & LCD Panel swap
R60 FrankenPad new spec's
* Intel 965GM System board with GMA x3100 graphics
* T7300 2.0GHz Core2Duo CPU - (Merom)
* 2GB RAM
* LG-Phillips 15.0" SXGA+ FlexView IPS LCD
* Middleton BIOS
Reused existing R60 Heatsink Fan & Heatsink bracket, Base cover & structure frame and LCD assembly
CPU idle core temps are between 34°C to 36°C
Additional info:
Penryn CPU support is possible, but requires a Middeleton BIOS upgrade that is for the R61 15.4" widescreen models - Further reading: Another T60 FrankenPad!...Different approach and R61 - 8943-DMG Penryn upgrade
R61/R61i 15.0" System board FRU's: 42W7822 or 44C3810
This FrakenPad runs flawlessly and is quiet too!
R60 & R61/R61i 15.0" 4:3 display share the same Hardware Maintenance Manual
I hope that all find this post useful & informative
Picture link ---> R60 & R61i System boards - R61i 15.0" 4:3 System board mounted within the R60 structure frame is a perfect fit and therefore interchangeable
Picture link ---> R60 FrankenPad
This was one of easiest FrankenPads to put together as it basically involves just a System board & LCD Panel swap
R60 FrankenPad new spec's
* Intel 965GM System board with GMA x3100 graphics
* T7300 2.0GHz Core2Duo CPU - (Merom)
* 2GB RAM
* LG-Phillips 15.0" SXGA+ FlexView IPS LCD
* Middleton BIOS
Reused existing R60 Heatsink Fan & Heatsink bracket, Base cover & structure frame and LCD assembly
CPU idle core temps are between 34°C to 36°C
Additional info:
Penryn CPU support is possible, but requires a Middeleton BIOS upgrade that is for the R61 15.4" widescreen models - Further reading: Another T60 FrankenPad!...Different approach and R61 - 8943-DMG Penryn upgrade
R61/R61i 15.0" System board FRU's: 42W7822 or 44C3810
This FrakenPad runs flawlessly and is quiet too!
R60 & R61/R61i 15.0" 4:3 display share the same Hardware Maintenance Manual
I hope that all find this post useful & informative
T60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [Another T60 FrankenPad!...Different approach]
R60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad]
R60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad]
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
What keyboard does it have ?
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
Keyboard is Model MW-90-UK - FRU: 42T3167 (P/N: 42T3133)
T60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [Another T60 FrankenPad!...Different approach]
R60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad]
R60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad]
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
Ah, an NMB.
The best. And even better on a 15" 4:3 R6X.
I prefer typing on a 15" 4:3 R6X NMB vs 15" 4:3 T6X NMB. Especially the R6X is in a 2504 docking station. That's just orgasmic. It's feel more stable and more comfy
The best. And even better on a 15" 4:3 R6X.
I prefer typing on a 15" 4:3 R6X NMB vs 15" 4:3 T6X NMB. Especially the R6X is in a 2504 docking station. That's just orgasmic. It's feel more stable and more comfy
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
Yep! - The NMB keyboards do have a nice stable feel about them
T60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [Another T60 FrankenPad!...Different approach]
R60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad]
R60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad]
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
You DO realize that it's the exact same keyboard, correct?coolcat37 wrote: I prefer typing on a 15" 4:3 R6X NMB vs 15" 4:3 T6X NMB.
The difference is that R6x doesn't suffer from the light left-side flex that many of the T6x machines exhibit.
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Cheers,
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One FlexView to rule them all: A31p
Abused daily: T520, X200s
PMs requesting personal tech support will be ignored.
Cheers,
George (your grouchy retired FlexView farmer)
One FlexView to rule them all: A31p
Abused daily: T520, X200s
PMs requesting personal tech support will be ignored.
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
Sure. If I wouldn't realize this I better check myself for Alzheimer's, right ?ajkula66 wrote:You DO realize that it's the exact same keyboard, correct?coolcat37 wrote: I prefer typing on a 15" 4:3 R6X NMB vs 15" 4:3 T6X NMB.
The difference is that R6x doesn't suffer from the light left-side flex that many of the T6x machines exhibit.
But the difference is there. Definitely. Plus the R61 palmrest and overall touch is more comfortable but it's more bulky (especially the screen). It feel like some chunky thing whilst the T601 feels like a high-powered sports car
The 14" R61 widescreen + NMB wasn't as comfortable as the 15" R61 4:3 + NMB.
Last edited by coolcat37 on Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
You actually own a 4:3 version of R61? If so, congrats on that rare bird.coolcat37 wrote:
The 14" R61 widescreen + NMB wasn't as comfortable as the 15" R61 4:3 + NMB.
...Knowledge is a deadly friend when no one sets the rules...(King Crimson)
Cheers,
George (your grouchy retired FlexView farmer)
One FlexView to rule them all: A31p
Abused daily: T520, X200s
PMs requesting personal tech support will be ignored.
Cheers,
George (your grouchy retired FlexView farmer)
One FlexView to rule them all: A31p
Abused daily: T520, X200s
PMs requesting personal tech support will be ignored.
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
Yes I do. Thank you. It was in like new-state (it's in the best condition of my 6 Thinkpads). The standard SXGA+ non-IPS screen that came with it was dreadful. Now it's equipped with a BoeHydis UXGA, 8 gig RAM, Intel 730 SSD and T7500. Gets quite hot. When I am back in Belgium, I'll upgrade that CPU w/ a T9300ajkula66 wrote:You actually own a 4:3 version of R61? If so, congrats on that rare bird.coolcat37 wrote:
The 14" R61 widescreen + NMB wasn't as comfortable as the 15" R61 4:3 + NMB.
Still RBS's T601 with LED UXGA [same setup otherwise + T9300] is infinitely more pleasant to work with... That screens just massages your eyes. It's so relaxing and sweet. Quite frankly it's amazing how the vast majority of the population have accepted to live with a screen less good than the BoeHydis LED UXGA 4:3. [On top of that work with widescreens?... What's up with that?]. That thing became an essential part of my digital life, a cornerstone. I couldn't imagine not having the luxury of seeing so smoothly, crisply and correctly. 't Is a delight, ... a delicacy
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
No argument from me on that one. These are amazing machines. Mine has been sitting mostly unused since I've finalized my T50 build, though...coolcat37 wrote:
Still RBS's T601 with LED UXGA [same setup otherwise + T9300] is infinitely more pleasant to work with...
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Cheers,
George (your grouchy retired FlexView farmer)
One FlexView to rule them all: A31p
Abused daily: T520, X200s
PMs requesting personal tech support will be ignored.
Cheers,
George (your grouchy retired FlexView farmer)
One FlexView to rule them all: A31p
Abused daily: T520, X200s
PMs requesting personal tech support will be ignored.
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Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
The next "Frankie" that I am currently building:
- real R61i 15" 4:3 with Intel graphics
- Middleton BIOS
- LED-lit UXGA BoeHydis
- T9300
- 8GB RAM
It's made from: R61i (8943-A18)
Based on 8943-ANC: T5250(1.5GHz), 1GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15in 1400x1050 LCD, Intel X3100, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11abg wireless, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, 6c Li-Ion, WinVista Home Basic 32
AFAIK this is only the second known R61i of this format currently in the USA.
Checking the warranty, this machine was originally sold in South Korea!
- real R61i 15" 4:3 with Intel graphics
- Middleton BIOS
- LED-lit UXGA BoeHydis
- T9300
- 8GB RAM
It's made from: R61i (8943-A18)
Based on 8943-ANC: T5250(1.5GHz), 1GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15in 1400x1050 LCD, Intel X3100, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11abg wireless, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, 6c Li-Ion, WinVista Home Basic 32
AFAIK this is only the second known R61i of this format currently in the USA.
Checking the warranty, this machine was originally sold in South Korea!
Lovely day for a Guinness! (The Real Black Stuff)
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Lenovo: X240, X250, T440p, T480, M900 Tiny.
PS: the old Boardroom website is still available on the Wayback Machine.
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
RBS - Looking forward to seeing your build
FYI - Anyone who has an R61/R61i 15.0" 4:3 and is looking for spares/parts - most of the R60 15.0" parts are interchangeable [base cover, structure frame, palmrest, keyboard bezel, LCD assembly etc]
Picture link ---> R60 & R61i 15.0" 4:3 lower bottom half assembly comparison
FYI - Anyone who has an R61/R61i 15.0" 4:3 and is looking for spares/parts - most of the R60 15.0" parts are interchangeable [base cover, structure frame, palmrest, keyboard bezel, LCD assembly etc]
Picture link ---> R60 & R61i 15.0" 4:3 lower bottom half assembly comparison
T60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [Another T60 FrankenPad!...Different approach]
R60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad]
R60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad]
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Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
I noticed that the TYPE sticker on both your machines is placed along the bottom edge.
That was also the case on my R61i.
So I moved that sticker to its proper rectangle (~ middle right).
That was also the case on my R61i.
So I moved that sticker to its proper rectangle (~ middle right).
Lovely day for a Guinness! (The Real Black Stuff)
Lenovo: X240, X250, T440p, T480, M900 Tiny.
PS: the old Boardroom website is still available on the Wayback Machine.
Lenovo: X240, X250, T440p, T480, M900 Tiny.
PS: the old Boardroom website is still available on the Wayback Machine.
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
Wonder why the factory did not place the MTM sticker in this (correct?) position to, as you did
T60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [Another T60 FrankenPad!...Different approach]
R60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad]
R60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad]
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
So how do ya folks like the plastic used in the R6X ?
Ajukla66, I had previously read your findings on your T50, 't seems an interesting machine. It should age well, given the fact that it takes DDR3. Did you ever try to put the LED UXGA screen of your "ultimate t43p" in it ? If so, why didn't you continue using it that way ?
Ajukla66, I had previously read your findings on your T50, 't seems an interesting machine. It should age well, given the fact that it takes DDR3. Did you ever try to put the LED UXGA screen of your "ultimate t43p" in it ? If so, why didn't you continue using it that way ?
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
R61 models are made of the same material as the T61, just a little thicker. CFRP base over magnesium frame, and PC+ABS cover over magnesium roll cage lid. R61 has better cooling, and may even be a bit tougher than a regular T61, but I don't have an R61 to compare.
R60 models have magnesium internal rollcages, but ABS plastic lid and base cover I believe.
R60 models have magnesium internal rollcages, but ABS plastic lid and base cover I believe.
Current Thinkpads: W530 (functional classic keyboard mod), X301, T61, T60, T43, A31p, T23, 600X, 770
Other: mk5 Toughbook cf-19, mk1 Toughbook cf-53
Other: mk5 Toughbook cf-19, mk1 Toughbook cf-53
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
Better than T6x as far as I'm concerned...coolcat37 wrote:So how do ya folks like the plastic used in the R6X ?
The LED screen is way too bright for my eyes to be used at maximum brightness, and it would flicker on a lower setting in a T50, so I stayed with a NOS Hydis CCFL UXGA panel which is not as aggressive at maximum setting.Ajukla66, I had previously read your findings on your T50, 't seems an interesting machine. It should age well, given the fact that it takes DDR3. Did you ever try to put the LED UXGA screen of your "ultimate t43p" in it ? If so, why didn't you continue using it that way ?
...Knowledge is a deadly friend when no one sets the rules...(King Crimson)
Cheers,
George (your grouchy retired FlexView farmer)
One FlexView to rule them all: A31p
Abused daily: T520, X200s
PMs requesting personal tech support will be ignored.
Cheers,
George (your grouchy retired FlexView farmer)
One FlexView to rule them all: A31p
Abused daily: T520, X200s
PMs requesting personal tech support will be ignored.
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
I thought about doing a R61 FrankenPad, but after buying the parts and slapping it together, it was just too expensive for a second notebook, at least for me anyways. Very nicely done though.
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Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
Agree, especially one with an NOS Hydis LED UXGA panelZaZ wrote:I thought about doing a R61 FrankenPad, but after buying the parts and slapping it together, it was just too expensive for a second notebook, at least for me anyways. Very nicely done though.
However an R60 FrankenPad could be cost effective if a reasonably priced R61 15.0 4:3 planar could be sourced together with a cheap good condition R60 - with the option if so required of a used SXGA+/UXGA Flexview panel which still has a few good miles left in it - This is exactly how this R60F in this post was put together
T60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [Another T60 FrankenPad!...Different approach]
R60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad]
R60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad]
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
Have you ever tried fitting a T61 nVidia board into an R60/61 15"?Peak2Peak wrote: However an R60 FrankenPad could be cost effective if a reasonably priced R61 15.0 4:3 planar could be sourced
I don't have an R6x to experiment with, but they look similar to your photo and with the recent price drop on the new NOS boards it would make a very cost effective Frankenpad since the 15" R60 units have sold dirt cheap at auction.
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
Actually only the 14" widescreen has the same lid cover as the T61... in fact the entire lid is interchangeable as are the motherboards, but the 15.4" and 15" are different beasts and don't have the soft matt finish that looks nice when new, but not so much after years of use.brchan wrote:R61 models are made of the same material as the T61, just a little thicker. CFRP base over magnesium frame, and PC+ABS cover over magnesium roll cage lid. R61 has better cooling, and may even be a bit tougher than a regular T61, but I don't have an R61 to compare.
As for the cooling, the R61 has a much smaller heatsink and a plastic fan case. For Intel graphics and a penryn cpu they suffice nicely, but don't compare to the T61p heatsink. I've used the factory R series fan with nVidia nvs140m graphics and it works nice, but I wouldn't recommend it with the fx570m gpu. I've also used these heatsinks on my "Race500" frankenpad which I deemed the worlds fastest Rseries running at 3.07ghz using an iMac penryn cpu and as far as I'm aware no one has devised a way to get them to run faster and they use a virtually identical heatsink and I had no problem keeping that powerful cpu cool without the need to alter the factory voltages, just some carefully applied Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste.
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
This had crossed my mind a little while back - but did not have any T61 14.1" 4:3 boards at hand - Will look into this if I get hold of a T61 14.1" 4:3 and another R60 15.0"TuuS wrote:Have you ever tried fitting a T61 nVidia board into an R60/61 15"?Peak2Peak wrote: However an R60 FrankenPad could be cost effective if a reasonably priced R61 15.0 4:3 planar could be sourced
I don't have an R6x to experiment with, but they look similar to your photo and with the recent price drop on the new NOS boards it would make a very cost effective Frankenpad since the 15" R60 units have sold dirt cheap at auction.
T60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [Another T60 FrankenPad!...Different approach]
R60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad]
R60F: (Integrated Intel GPU) - [ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad]
Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I am just now alerted to all these topics I didn't realized I was quoted in, so my apology. I haven't personally fitted a T61 board into a 15" R60/61, but others have and I believe it is an easy fit and you don't have to remove the modem (if my memory serves me). There is a topic about this posted several years ago titles something like "a different approach" to building a frankenpad... something like that.Peak2Peak wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:11 pmThis had crossed my mind a little while back - but did not have any T61 14.1" 4:3 boards at hand - Will look into this if I get hold of a T61 14.1" 4:3 and another R60 15.0"TuuS wrote:
Have you ever tried fitting a T61 nVidia board into an R60/61 15"?
I don't have an R6x to experiment with, but they look similar to your photo and with the recent price drop on the new NOS boards it would make a very cost effective Frankenpad since the 15" R60 units have sold dirt cheap at auction.
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Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
Does the R60 have a uniquely positioned Firewire port, between the left vent and VGA port? Does this interfere with Frankenpadding?
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Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
No it doesn't affect it in a way
Fan of both ThinkPads and FrankenPads alike!
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Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
Hello , I have aa idle LCD Panel ex T60 15" SXGA + . Is it fit to R61i LCD ?Peak2Peak wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:53 pmThis R60 15.0" FrankenPad uses the semi-rare ThinkPad R61i (15.0" 4:3 - Model type: 8943-DSG) Intel 965GM System board with GMA x3100 graphics - FRU: 44C3810 - Middleton BIOS and 15.0" SXGA+ FlexView IPS LCD Panel
Picture link ---> R60 & R61i System boards - R61i 15.0" 4:3 System board mounted within the R60 structure frame is a perfect fit and therefore interchangeable
Picture link ---> R60 FrankenPad
This was one of easiest FrankenPads to put together as it basically involves just a System board & LCD Panel swap
R60 FrankenPad new spec's
* Intel 965GM System board with GMA x3100 graphics
* T7300 2.0GHz Core2Duo CPU - (Merom)
* 2GB RAM
* LG-Phillips 15.0" SXGA+ FlexView IPS LCD
* Middleton BIOS
Reused existing R60 Heatsink Fan & Heatsink bracket, Base cover & structure frame and LCD assembly
CPU idle core temps are between 34°C to 36°C
Additional info:
Penryn CPU support is possible, but requires a Middeleton BIOS upgrade that is for the R61 15.4" widescreen models - Further reading: Another T60 FrankenPad!...Different approach and R61 - 8943-DMG Penryn upgrade
R61/R61i 15.0" System board FRU's: 42W7822 or 44C3810
This FrakenPad runs flawlessly and is quiet too!
R60 & R61/R61i 15.0" 4:3 display share the same Hardware Maintenance Manual
I hope that all find this post useful & informative
Regards
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Re: ThinkPad R60 15.0" FrankenPad - (Pic links)
Yes, if your R61i is a 15" 4:3 machine.
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Lenovo: X240, X250, T440p, T480, M900 Tiny.
PS: the old Boardroom website is still available on the Wayback Machine.
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PS: the old Boardroom website is still available on the Wayback Machine.
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