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Obtained a G50, what is this thing?

#1 Post by Screamer » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:25 am

Sometime not too long ago, I was trying to get a functional G40 or even a G41. Unfortunately, very few eBay offers had them in some unconfirmed state that I probably wouldn't even dare to try buying them. Then paranoia got ahead of me and I bought this thing on impulse.

This looks like your everyday G40/G41 but with the left heat ventilation port blocked by some plastic cover, along with the parallel and VGA port painted in some dull-grey color. For some reason the battery's pin-outs as compared to the G40/G41's looks different too (G50 on the top, G40/G41 on the bottom), and it uses the 20V adapters like an equivalent T60/R60/X60/Z60 would use. Other than that it looks exactly the same as a G40/G41 would be, what a weird machine.

Here is the G50's image, sad to say it comes with a Celeron M instead of a Core Duo. Ah well, I'd like to hear your opinions and thoughts about this particular ThinkPad.

26 June 2018 UPDATE: The G50 will not accept any MiniPCIE wireless card, unless it is a Lenovo-branded Atheros AR5006EX or a Lenovo-branded Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG. The no-1802 utility does not work on the G50's BIOS too, so a modified BIOS will be required to use a different MiniPCIE card. The G50 does not have a 2nd connector for the secondary fan found on the previous G40/G41 models, that means the secondary fan on some of the G40/G41 heatsinks will not function.

G40/G41 keyboards will fit in the G50 with no problem. If anyone is interested in a picture with the G40/G41 US keyboard installed in my G50, please send me a personal message or ask by posting in this topic. Worst of all, the G50's BIOS does not accept a Core 2 Duo T7600 or any Core 2 Duo processor (Merom-derived). The fastest available for the G50 is the Core Duo T2700, or any Core Duo processor (Yonah-derived).
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Re: Obtained a G50, what is this thing?

#2 Post by dr_st » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:08 am

LOL, you found a rare gem without realizing it.

The G50 is the Japan-only update to the G series, with the hardware equivalent to the *60 series. You should be able to update the CPU to any Core Duo, and if BIOS supports it, then even Core 2 Duo.

Congrats on your nice purchase! :thumbs-UP:
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Re: Obtained a G50, what is this thing?

#3 Post by wujstefan » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:33 am

Wow. Congrats. I do own a G41 (and owned two - if I've seen a post in the marketplace that you are looking for one, it would probably already be in your hands), but am looking/hunting for G50. Just missed my time when they were available.

Again - congratulations. This is something one could put on a shelf just to make joy to anothers' eyes.
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Re: Obtained a G50, what is this thing?

#4 Post by Screamer » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:39 am

dr_st wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:08 am
LOL, you found a rare gem without realizing it.

The G50 is the Japan-only update to the G series, with the hardware equivalent to the *60 series. You should be able to update the CPU to any Core Duo, and if BIOS supports it, then even Core 2 Duo.

Congrats on your nice purchase! :thumbs-UP:
A rare gem? I thought it was some common budget machine that nobody wanted, I guess my dumb self is hitting me again? :?

That explains why almost every G50 I looked at had the Japanese keyboard and not the US English keyboard, interesting find I got I suppose. I'll also try to upgrade the processor to a T7600 someday. And thanks, though it somewhat did burn a hole in my wallet...
wujstefan wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:33 am
Wow. Congrats. I do own a G41 (and owned two - if I've seen a post in the marketplace that you are looking for one, it would probably already be in your hands), but am looking/hunting for G50. Just missed my time when they were available.

Again - congratulations. This is something one could put on a shelf just to make joy to anothers' eyes.
Darn, if only I had known sooner that you owned a G41. Thanks, but I would definitely not want to put it on a shelf and make it a display model. Doing that would have killed my insides after all I have spent on this G50.

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Re: Obtained a G50, what is this thing?

#5 Post by wujstefan » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:47 am

Well then I guess you must have paid some heavy money for this one :D Actually G41, especially nVidia units get more and more harder to find. I've seen last G41 w/nVidia sold for $350. It had a working battery and was a top-shaped unit, however.

I can hunt for one in Poland if you like, they tend to pop time to time. You can drop me a PM.
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Re: Obtained a G50, what is this thing?

#6 Post by Screamer » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:07 am

Woah, $350? Sorry, but I think I'll pass, that is some crazy amount to pay for a nVidia G41. I have a Toshiba Satellite P25 that has the same GeForce FX Go5200 in the G41, but with only 64MB of VRAM. That cost me $101 in total with the extra horsepower the P25 has with its full-blown desktop Northwood Pentium 4 HT at 3.4GHz, so I guess you could say I went for a budget nVidia G41 back then.

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Re: Obtained a G50, what is this thing?

#7 Post by wujstefan » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:16 am

Well it's collectible after all. If you search this forum you'll find out that I was asking... $70 for mine :D
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Re: Obtained a G50, what is this thing?

#8 Post by ac12 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:08 am

I upgraded the CPU in my G40 from Celeron to a Pentium and performance improved significantly.
So IMHO, that is a worthwhile upgrade.

Unfortunately, I think you are RAM capped at 2GB.
For Windows, the obsolete Win XP is about as high as you can install.
Or Linux. But even with Linux you may be limited to a lite version or an older version that will run on that hardware.

I do not know if a US keyboard is available for the G50, or if the G40/41 keyboard will fit.

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Re: Obtained a G50, what is this thing?

#9 Post by wujstefan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:01 am

ac12 wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:08 am
For Windows, the obsolete Win XP is about as high as you can install.
Well this is not entireley true.
W7 installs and boots just fine. The thing is, nVidia has drivers for Vista that work well on W7 as well; and some time in the past I've been trying to make integrated gpu work on another system, and failed.
Since nVidia chips were present in G41 and not G40, effectively running W7 is possible on the first one. However, it installs on both units.

I have booted my G41 w/nVidia this weekend. I should share some pics since this project is finished. Aaaah memories ;)
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