Official Z Series Pics

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kkapoor · #1 Post by **kkapoor** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:19 pm

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000527058629/

Two Models are shown. The Z60t and the Z60m.

Z60m has a 15-inch 1280 x 800 pixel display.
Z60t has a 14-inch, 1280 x 768 pixel display.

Reminds me alot of the widescreen powerbook in terms of layout and size.

rajm · #2 Post by **rajm** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:31 pm

AHHH that resolution is much lower than expected on the z60t

Toe · #3 Post by **Toe** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:08 pm

Looks like an HP...........

-Toe

Blake · #4 Post by **Blake** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:59 pm

where is the 12 widescreen??????? please

kanate · #5 Post by **kanate** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:18 pm

only if they have higer resolutions screen, it would be great and I might switch to it from my T43P.

And looks like there's windows key on the keyboard. Keyboard layout seem to be the same as in T/R series. It would be interesting IF this keyboard with windows key can also be used in T series.

kaplanfx · #6 Post by **kaplanfx** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:40 pm

I concur with the many posts. TP users are power users and we demand more resolution! My 14.1 inch does 1400x1050 a 15 inch widescreen should certainly go higher res than that, much much higher, or at least a bit.

skibum1981 · #7 Post by **skibum1981** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:18 am

kaplanfx wrote:I concur with the many posts. TP users are power users and we demand more resolution! My 14.1 inch does 1400x1050 a 15 inch widescreen should certainly go higher res than that, much much higher, or at least a bit.

Jesus Christ you guys!

Do you honestly believe that they're going to have only one configuration? There will be standard and high resolution models, just as with the T43. I'll bet my life on it.

They might even have three resolutions (WXGA, WSXGA+, WUGA) as with the T43.

One drawback: might have to wait a bit for the higher res models. The T43 higher res models weren't even listed on the website until a few months ago.

tehsoul · #8 Post by **tehsoul** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:57 am

power users... aside from some graphical designers (who'll get powerbooks anyway), people who prefer widescreen laptop arent what i'd call power users... just my two cents

can anybody give me a few GOOD reasons to get a widescreen? because i sure as hell cant come up with any... just like 17" laptops, it just doesn't make any sense

kanate · #9 Post by **kanate** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:24 am

power users like programmer can have benefit on using widescreen by open 2 windows side by side; one is references and one is editor. More space on screen, more productivity.

And as i heard, Windows Vista will have a feature that show special toolbar on the side of the screen, you can use this extra space in widescreen to show them and still have the same space left as in 4:3 screen to do your work.

#10 Post by **BillMorrow** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:34 am

i spoke (rescued, actually, with a fast HDD replacement) to a previous customer yesterday and he was asking about the X series..
he likes it because he CAN open two pages, side by side..
while he does MOST of his work on a desktop with two displays (i use three!) at his office, there are times when he goes on the road (yesterday he was in chicago) when a wide format (1200x1900 or thereabouts) would be a boon to him..

and that is the only reason to have widescreen, IMO..

so when lenovo (len OH NO! as one hereabouts put it

) does bring this resolution to market they will have that market to sell into..

now h/p and others do a wide format but how many DO do 1200x1900..?

other, lesser resolutions, will be for gamers and movie buffs i think and not so much for serious WORK..

skystorm · #11 Post by **skystorm** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:31 pm

kkapoor wrote:Z60m has a 15-inch 1280 x 800 pixel display.

Well, that's just plain wrong. The 15-inch is 1680 x 1050.

rajm · #12 Post by **rajm** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:05 pm

skystorm wrote: Well, that's just plain wrong. The 15-inch is 1680 x 1050.

The engadget site says 1280x800...

Navck · #13 Post by **Navck** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:42 pm

BillMorrow wrote:i spoke (rescued, actually, with a fast HDD replacement) to a previous customer yesterday and he was asking about the X series..
he likes it because he CAN open two pages, side by side..
while he does MOST of his work on a desktop with two displays (i use three!) at his office, there are times when he goes on the road (yesterday he was in chicago) when a wide format (1200x1900 or thereabouts) would be a boon to him..

and that is the only reason to have widescreen, IMO..

so when lenovo (len OH NO! as one hereabouts put it ) does bring this resolution to market they will have that market to sell into..

now h/p and others do a wide format but how many DO do 1200x1900..?

other, lesser resolutions, will be for gamers and movie buffs i think and not so much for serious WORK..

'

I just have my Thinkpad next to my desktop. Ultimate multitasking solution
1024x768 desktop (Very comfortable) and 1400x1050 Thinkpad (Good)

Then I see the widescreen fanboy flames from Gamefaqs, becuase I don't "WANT TO MARRY THE WIDESCREEN MONITOR AND HAVE BABYS FROM IT" (Want the page? I can send you the link for it). I do more on a 1400x1050 screen page scrolling wise than some weird widescreen, infact, I have never put two windows side by side ever, I alt-tab so much.

skystorm · #14 Post by **skystorm** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:10 am

rajm wrote:
skystorm wrote: Well, that's just plain wrong. The 15-inch is 1680 x 1050.
The engadget site says 1280x800...

Well, they are wrong then

Just check the announcements posted in this thread, it's either WXGA (wide version of 1024x768) or WSXGA (wide version of 1400x1050)...

rajm · #15 Post by **rajm** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:17 pm

yeah, i figured they were wrong.

btw, i posted a lot of those announcements.

fbrdphreak · #16 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:57 pm

Hey guys,
There is a lot of mis-information floating around the net about the Z-series. I posted this in Thinkpad Hardware 'cuz I didn't see this section

http://www.laptoplogic.com/news/09/16/2005/508/0/

Pricing, specs, sizes, weight, the whole nine yards

I don't have a Z60 in my hands yet, but soon

dokein · #17 Post by **dokein** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:59 pm

what the hell is that thing jutting out on the right side of the lcd? and those speakers are ugly.

fbrdphreak · #18 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:18 pm

I noticed that too -- I think it is the antenna for the EVDO card, but I'll check.

EDIT And I didn't know speakers could be ugly

snife · #19 Post by **snife** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:53 pm

The bit on the side is the EVDO (WAN) antenna.

The Z60m (15" model) will be available in both WXGA (1280 x 800) and WSXGA+ (1680 × 1050) so everyone should be happy with that. I'm a fan of high resolutions but anything higher than that would be unusable for most.

rajm · #20 Post by **rajm** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:27 pm

The only concern I have is that the WSXGA+ model is only a 200 nits screen. Right now I am used to my A31p screen and I am scared that this will be a step down. Also, why didnt they put a CF card slot...

Charles Krug · #21 Post by **Charles Krug** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:45 pm

Been looking for a machine in this category for my boss -- don't thnk I've seen a wide screen with a higher res. While mainly considering 13" models, will wait for the official specs & see how the Z60t stacks up. The built-in EV-DO is a plus, though coverage is still pretty sparse. Choice will probably come down to either this or a Sony S480.
Jim

fbrdphreak · #22 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:00 pm

The review model I will be receiving will have the EVDO card and since I'm in Raleigh (where Verizon JUST rolled out EVDO service), I'll get to test it out

YAY!!!!

rajm · #23 Post by **rajm** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:03 pm

fbrdphreak wrote:The review model I will be receiving will have the EVDO card and since I'm in Raleigh (where Verizon JUST rolled out EVDO service), I'll get to test it out YAY!!!!

When will you be getting it? Do you know which one it will be?

#24 Post by **jdhurst** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:40 pm

I read the article and the cat is now out of the bag. The end is near, I think, for the professional ThinkPad. Lenovo said, in part, "...will hopefully win over those of you who couldn’t deal with IBM’s stubborn reluctance to release a laptop with anything but a 4:3 display"

IBM's stubborn relunctance to produce fluff and low-end consumer wants is precisely what has made it (for over a decade) the best business laptops bar none. No one has ever been embarrassed by using a ThinkPad.

I see nothing wrong with producing a wide-screen display for those who want one - just that IBM worked with the business users first and produced tried and true technology that would work for those users. I just don't like Lenovo's reasoning.
... JD Hurst

fbrdphreak · #25 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:43 pm

rajm wrote:
fbrdphreak wrote:The review model I will be receiving will have the EVDO card and since I'm in Raleigh (where Verizon JUST rolled out EVDO service), I'll get to test it out YAY!!!!
When will you be getting it? Do you know which one it will be?

I don't remember the model number, but IIRC it is

Z60t
Titanium Cover
Pentium M 2GHz
1GB DDR2 533
100GB 5400RPM
EVDO Card
IBM a/b/g
Bluetooth
DVDRW
XP Pro

I think that's it...

Navck · #26 Post by **Navck** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:27 pm

Argh, ugly. No corners, no transparent bar... Not a thinkpad!

kanate · #27 Post by **kanate** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:36 pm

I don't really get it. Why people always say 4:3 screen is for business and whenever they put widescreen in, it's not for business

It's not like TV that if you have 4:3 screen and display widescreen content, you lost lots of working space; have 2 black bars on top and bottom, or widescreen TV when display 4:3 content you have 2 black bars on the side.

With computer screen, you have more resolutions, more space to work on. Think about how many more columns you can view in excel with widescreen. Now which one is good for business?

And for the size of the unit. 14" widescreen is about the same width as in 15" T series and deep about the same or less than 14.1" T series. That's small and light already!

Talk about 3 USB, firewire, better speakers, memory card reader, (hopefully) same build quality, and same thinkvantage technology, lots of improvement over IBM's old models.

I just hope they will have WUXGA in 15.4" wide screen model, like in HP nw8240

fbrdphreak · #28 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:12 am

kanate wrote:I just hope they will have WUXGA in 15.4" wide screen model, like in HP nw8240

I hope so too, but keep in mind that the Z60m is not designed to compete with the nw8240 IN ANY WAY. The 8240 is supposed to compete with a T43p, and nothing else from IBM/Lenovo's lineup.

Right now no WUXGA is in the lineup for the Z60m, but I will ask if there are plans

#29 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:26 pm

Here is an article I pulled up today on the Z60 series. Enjoy!

rajm · #30 Post by **rajm** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:35 am

lol "The ThinkPad Z Series Tablet " from that article...

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