Unbelievable Z thinkpad story!

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firestarter · #1 Post by **firestarter** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:51 pm

read post#52
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthr ... ost1202844

scrible88 · #2 Post by **scrible88** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:56 pm

Thinkpads rock.

Mine fell about 7 feet from the top of the fridge to the hardwood kitchen floor and it did pretty much absolutely NOTHING to it. A screen hinge plastic cover had a very small crack but that was easily fixed with some superglue and it popped right back on.

AndyL · #3 Post by **AndyL** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:39 am

The original "user opinion" on Cnet:

http://reviews.cnet.com/ThinkPad_Z60t_2 ... &tag=uolst

Sounds pretty unlikely... for starters all the Iraqi insurgents I've seen on the news have been toting AK47's not Berettas - perhaps it was friendly fire rather than enemy fire

#4 Post by **K. Eng** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:37 am

Anyone want to shoot a Z60m w' Titanium lid to see if this is plausibile?

I find this story hard to believe. As strong as Titanium is, I don't think a thin LCD display cover will stop pistol rounds.

snife · #5 Post by **snife** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:02 am

The thinness of the titanium coating is such that it can stop scratching but not projectiles so this is nonsense - the timeframe of the original post doesn't make sense either.

Don't get me wrong ThinkPads are tough - i've dropped a few from fair heights with minimal damage but I really think if you needed a notebook in a warzone you would at least opt for a tough book.

scrible88 · #6 Post by **scrible88** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:09 am

Thinkpads are tough, but not bullet-stopping tough.

Sounds like BS to me.

#7 Post by **GomJabbar** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:46 am

Whether the story is true or not, I couldn't say. But there are a couple of things to consider. How far away was the shooter? If the bullet was a hollow-point (to inflict maximum damage to tissue), that would make the bullet less penetrable. Was the laptop in a laptop case or was it out in the open?

#8 Post by **K. Eng** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:35 pm

I wonder though if a closed ThinkPad T4x could stop a slow, low caliber pistol round. The LCD lid is magnesium alloy, which is hard but fairly brittle compared to steel and aluminum. A bullet would probably cause the magnesium alloy panel to crack or shatter. I'm pretty sure the keyboard and system board would also go to pieces. I wonder if these components are hard enough to cause the bullet to shatter, and if the carbon fiber composite base is strong enough to catch the fragments.

Not something I'm willing to test, but if someone wants to put a 9mm round through a T4x that is beyond repair, I'd be interested to see the results.

scrible88 wrote:Thinkpads are tough, but not bullet-stopping tough.

Sounds like BS to me.

vkyr · #9 Post by **vkyr** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:46 am

Well, even mostly all Thinkpads when initially build have to pass some rougher torture tests, see for example...

http://29991.forum.onetwomax.de/topic=105681199464

...I pretty much doubt that shooting on it's display covers is or would be part of those torture tests.

#10 Post by **GomJabbar** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:03 pm

I wonder if they are checking for fan noise in the soundroom?

vkyr · #11 Post by **vkyr** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:21 am

Obviously they will check sound and overall noise levels under different conditions there.

Things like the fan noise can also change slightly during the life time of specific Thinkpad series, since the overall fan behaviour is adjustable/settable via firmware/BIOS updates inside some parameters.

However, all in all the fan behaviour as part of an overall thermal notebook design depends on a bunch of aspects...

- the quality of the supplied fan itself (some produce more high frequency/pitched sounds etc.)
- rotation speed, amount/ratio of air they can handle
- if the fan is decoupled/absorbed from the chassis, so it doesn't make much resonance and noice emissions
- internal temperature sensorings
- overall functional way of heatpipe design
- the art of firmware/software controlling
- ...and so on...

So there are many things to take into account here and some of these are by no means trivial.

#12 Post by **GomJabbar** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:28 am

GomJabbar wrote:I wonder if they are checking for fan noise in the soundroom?

This was supposed to be a rhetorical question.

vkyr · #13 Post by **vkyr** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:35 am

GomJabbar wrote: ...
This was supposed to be a rhetorical question.

I know...

...but I wanted to give a serious answer, so that other people might understand and see, that it is no trivial part to implement a well working fan behaviour in general which meets the specs of a specific notebook design.

fbrdphreak · #14 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:58 pm

I told my Lenovo rep about this and he said they know about it & are looking into it to see if it is true, LOL

Next thing you see in a Thinkpad ad...

amitra · #15 Post by **amitra** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:38 am

i guess the Z60t black cover is a flimsy ABS sheet of plastic, a sort of stop gap solution quite contrary to the magnesium cover on a T42 / 43. Infact the panel gap is quite uneven and i can insert my nails where the cover joins the screen borders, and peek into the internals

own6volvos · #16 Post by **own6volvos** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:20 am

never expected my quote of that review on cnet to cause so much commotion (dietcokefiend = own6)

fbrdphreak · #17 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:08 am

own6volvos wrote: never expected my quote of that review on cnet to cause so much commotion (dietcokefiend = own6)

Did you know Lenovo is investigating this to see if it is true?

If you want I can put you in touch with the right people to verify it, I'm sure they'd love this in some PR!

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