Rescue and Recovery help

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smek · #1 Post by **smek** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:14 pm

After installing Vista, I desided to roll back to my previous back ups on Windows XP. The problem is that I cant acess rescue and recovery in Vista, and pressing the Thinkvantage button at start up only get me to the BIOS. I know the hidden partion si still there, but how do I acess it?

natasha · #2 Post by **natasha** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:53 pm

Off topic reply: You'd be surprised how much better the system runs with a nice clean install of Win XP (make sure you have wireless/network drivers, UAA HDA drivers ready). And while I appreciate all the rescue and restore options ThinkPad offers, i hate how much of hard drive real estate these extra things are using. And then the question is what do you do if/when your hard drive dies on you. Anywho, I think that Vista installation corrupts recovery options and while I could dwell on it for days I simply fdisk and reinstall XP (this is a better (and faster) option especially if you don't have much installed on your thinkPad).

BTW, I tried Vista -- liked the OS appearance but I'm really concerned about the speed of that OS. XP much, much faster. But then again, Vista is only Beta so iit's hard to judge it at this point.

christopher_wolf · #3 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:33 pm

smek wrote:After installing Vista, I desided to roll back to my previous back ups on Windows XP. The problem is that I cant acess rescue and recovery in Vista, and pressing the Thinkvantage button at start up only get me to the BIOS. I know the hidden partion si still there, but how do I acess it?

Hit the either the "ThinkVantage" button or F11 during boot. That should get you into the R&R partition where you can do a factory restore.

After that, I would recommend making the R&R disk set if you can; it is always good to have in case the on-board R&R partition gets nuked.

HTH

smek · #4 Post by **smek** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:42 pm

One of my problems was that when id hit thinkvatage at start up I would be brought into selection screen that only had BIOS as an option. This happend after installing Vista, so might ahve been a corrupt install.

In the end I had to make a 8 gig partion on the HD and install a version of Win XP. Only after that could i get into rescue and recovery and install a backup that I had made. I think the IBM recue and recovery is a great tool, its jsut that it wasnt made to work with Vista yet.

christopher_wolf · #5 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:52 pm

smek wrote:One of my problems was that when id hit thinkvatage at start up I would be brought into selection screen that only had BIOS as an option. This happend after installing Vista, so might ahve been a corrupt install.

In the end I had to make a 8 gig partion on the HD and install a version of Win XP. Only after that could i get into rescue and recovery and install a backup that I had made. I think the IBM recue and recovery is a great tool, its jsut that it wasnt made to work with Vista yet.

Now that is very interesting; the IBM R&R should work regardless of whatever OS is on top of it, as long as it can talk to the BIOS, HDD, and the rest of the system at a low level...It should work.

I don't understand why the Vista install messed it and then you were able to recover it by re-installing XP and booting the partition. If the partition gets messed up, that is usually the end.

smek · #6 Post by **smek** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:11 pm

Im thinking that I accidently removed R+R interface when clearing up some programs for space prior to vista. Whats interesting is that all the back ups were saved, and probably when I was isntalling all the IBM software on the fresh copy of Win XP R+R came with that. And thus made it work, so that proably would have worked with Vista although most other Thinkvantage software wouldnt run.

rahulshah · #7 Post by **rahulshah** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:28 pm

IBM charges £40 for the recovery discs in UK, how much in the US?

natasha · #8 Post by **natasha** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:36 pm

smek wrote:Im thinking that I accidently removed R+R interface when clearing up some programs for space prior to vista. Whats interesting is that all the back ups were saved, and probably when I was isntalling all the IBM software on the fresh copy of Win XP R+R came with that. And thus made it work, so that proably would have worked with Vista although most other Thinkvantage software wouldnt run.

I don't think you messed up anything. I didn't have much on my ThinkPad so I thought it's a good time to try Vista. Straight upgrade. Some things didn't work right for me (wireless & too slow) and I tried to R&R .. and it just wouldn't work. (That was a good excuse to do a clean WinXP Pro install

). So, my thinking is that something in Vista corrupts the recovery files.

smek · #9 Post by **smek** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:08 pm

I don't think you messed up anything. I didn't have much on my ThinkPad so I thought it's a good time to try Vista. Straight upgrade. Some things didn't work right for me (wireless & too slow) and I tried to R&R .. and it just wouldn't work. (That was a good excuse to do a clean WinXP Pro install ). So, my thinking is that something in Vista corrupts the recovery files.

But did you try to acess rescue and recovery at the start up of Windows, by hitting thinkvatage button?

natasha · #10 Post by **natasha** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:54 am

smek wrote:But did you try to acess rescue and recovery at the start up of Windows, by hitting thinkvatage button?

Yes. It would take me to the BIOS screen. I did use R&R before and it works great with XP, but for some reason not with Vista. It's a beta so I didn't expect a 100% functionality either

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