75 effing processes!

[allan]

My stolen R40 had 40-odd processes and I wasn't happy with that. This new R60 has 75 out of the box!
Now that Black Viper doesn't keep us informed, can anyone tell me where to get some guidance on what to turn off?
It seems that as we buy more capacity we just get loaded with more crap and so we are just where we started.

[dsigma6]

Search! I typed in "disable services black viper" in google and the first result is the one you're looking for. This is also available by searching the forum.

[underclocker]

Lenovo should provide a free stick of RAM if they are going to add bloatware. You'll have to go through each item and each installed program to see if you need/want them. Very painful. Perhaps someone can provide a list with descriptions.

FWIW, Compaq/HP/Dell have been doing this for a looong time.

[dsigma6]

It is such a waste of time, and the only thing you can really do is clone the drive after you spends hours cleaning it up.

[gearguy]

Lenovo should provide a free stick of RAM if they are going to add bloatware. You'll have to go through each item and each installed program to see if you need/want them. Very painful. Perhaps someone can provide a list with descriptions.

FWIW, Compaq/HP/Dell have been doing this for a looong time.

LG gave me a free stick of ram with my laptop

[jdhurst]

If you think that the number of processes is an indicator of performance and problems, then you don't understand what you are doing, and should get some guidance about what each of them does and improving your understanding. This topic is getting old and long in the tooth and gets repeated in here much too often. It does not matter how many processes you run - it matters how you set up and tune your machine.

My T41 has 80 processes running, is very fast, runs as smooth as silk, consumes 2 percent or less CPU 99 percent of the time or more, and causes zero problems. There are two consequences of running process: 1. they do consume memory (but I have lots of that) and 2. it does take longer to start (so what - I start my TP on average once or twice per day and once running it is very fast).

JD Hurst

[underclocker]

I'd say the number of processes on a stock machine is a relative indication of whether or not things could be better.

New machines are often packed with bloatware/spyware/junk.

A finely tuned machine (which is not how vendors ship them these days), is quite different. It should be what we all strive for - whether it be with 22 processes or 92.

[jdhurst]

1. I'd say the number of processes on a stock machine is a relative indication of whether or not things could be better.

2. New machines are often packed with bloatware/spyware/junk.

3. A finely tuned machine (which is not how vendors ship them these days), is quite different. It should be what we all strive for - whether it be with 22 processes or 92.

1. The *number* of processes have nothing to do with that.
2. Not an IBM machine in my experience. Most assuredly *NO* spyware. Most of their stuff is reasonable, a very few (Access Support, Desktop Software Update) are pretty useless. But your sweeping generalization is entirely unhelpful.
3. Yes. Ironically, it is XP that needs the most tuning, not the IBM software (it needs some), but I do agree with this point.
... JD Hurst

[underclocker]

1. I'd say the number of processes on a stock machine is a relative indication of whether or not things could be better.

Yes this is true. An IBM machine that comes out of the box with 27 processes has a good change of being in better tuned (better performance, less unnecessary overhead) than a Compaq with 57 processes. You can split hairs and say the 27 on IBM could be more CPU intensive than all the Compaq processes, but in reality, this is not generally the case.

Short of stopping your system from running, the less processes, the better, with regard to optimal performance. Processes use memory and CPU.

If your in the twenties, things are probably OK, if you're in the sixties, you're probably a little heavy. Reducing running processes will improve performance, in general.

2. New machines are often packed with bloatware/spyware/junk.

That is true with most of today's machines. Even IBM loads some support crap that either sends you messages or allows some kind of communication with IBM or a third party. Others pile on even more, try a new Dell or HP. Some new machines, barely run at all without removing several programs (a.k.a. processes). Call it what you will.

[jdhurst]

<snip> Some new machines, barely run at all without removing several programs (a.k.a. processes). Call it what you will.

Were you answering your own post? Let us know, in case something is wrong.

I have not ever seen an IBM Desktop or ThinkPad from 5 years ago or newer "barely" run because of processes. Some HP and Dell machines load advertising crud that starts up with the machines and runs for several minutes at startup. I corral those processes for clients.

The one thing that drags down a medium speed machine or less is a Windows thing. One click changes that and sets the machine free. That is the eye candy setting under Performance in Properties in My Computer. Uncheck that, and the machine will speed up instantly.
... JD Hurst