Auto-start after crash or power failure

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Auto-start after crash or power failure

#1 Post by whipple » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:10 am

Does anyone know how I can have an R30 automatically restart after the unit has quit due to either a power failure or an overheat?

I am using an R30 in a data collection application at a remote site and it occasionally gets ungracefully shut down. This means that once the unit cools down or power is restored wake-on-lan is not an option. Ideally I would like the unit to restart itself, but a network solution is also acceptable.

Any ideas?
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#2 Post by phool@round » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:42 am

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Networked UPS sounds like the ticket....... Here's a link to APC; here.

Browse at the many options there........ ILO (Integrated Lights Out) is the only other option but I've never seen a laptop in a server rack....lol. I would imagine someone has a trick for that too. This will give you an idea of what ILO can do (or not) for you. Link. ILO is generally meant for racked servers but the information might help you find exactly what your after.

Can someone get a fan on it at the location? Either way, the unit has to be taking a heck of a hit everytime it takes a dive not to mention possible disk corruption. With the APC software or the iLO apps you can monitor the health of your system and power on or off over a network.

Hope this helps.
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#3 Post by whipple » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:33 am

Perhaps I am missing something. Do the APC devices have the ability to do more than power on and off their outlets via the network? If not, this doesn't help because once the power is turned back on the R30 does not automatically boot. That's the piece of the puzzle that I am missing.
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#4 Post by aaa » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:47 am

It is a BIOS option on some computers, I don't know if you have it though.

Only network option is wake-on-lan.

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#5 Post by mediasponge » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:36 pm

Windows XP has built-in support for APC UPS devices. If you get a reasonably current UPS with USB connectivity, it will signal the computer to do a graceful shutdown, thus preventing disk corruption. This would happen after the UPS runs out of battery. I don't think the UPS software can take into account that a laptop has its own battery to run off of. I've seen restart after power fail as an option on desktop machines, but not on a laptop. Are you sure you wouldn't be better off with some low-power greybox with passive cooling as the data collection machine?

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#6 Post by phool@round » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:38 am

mediasponge, if the battery is removed you'd have a "black box".....lol.

whipple, I think I have found something you'd be interested in. I don't know what your exact situation is, but I think it's something along what you have in mind. Link to iboot.

I still think a UPS will treat your laptop and data collection more kindly by keeping the system on during a power outage but I don't know what your budget or device limits are.
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#7 Post by whipple » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:22 am

It's beginning to sound like I may have to switch computers there. The current BIOS does not have an option to start on power-up.

I read the iBoot manual. It's another cool device, but cycling the power does nothing to restart the machine.

I agree that prevention could be the cure. If power loss was our biggest problem the graceful shutdown by a UPS would take care of it.

What I have seen happening more is the overheat. Hackers find our communication server and start pounding on it. When this happens, the R30 can't take the abuse. I keep patching up the firewall and the interval between shutdowns increases, but we are about to install a new system that might as well be on the moon as it's going to be very difficult to access. (3 1/2 miles out to sea.)

The one I'm working on now is in borrowed space in a pier house office. That's why I have been using a laptop. I'm trying to use as little space as possible.
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#8 Post by phool@round » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:39 am

Now I understand the what's and why's of your question... Any chance that you can get behind a hardware firewall?
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