Help understanding GPU--Discreet vs Integrated

R, A, G and Z series specific matters only
Post Reply
Message
Author
Grumpy
Posts: 42
Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:05 pm

Help understanding GPU--Discreet vs Integrated

#1 Post by Grumpy » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:11 pm

I thought a DISCRETE GPU meant a "card" that could be replaced by slipping into a socket. And INTEGRATED meant the pins were soldered to the motherboard.

Doesn't seem to be the case for my R51 1836-Q7U http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... ry=1836Q7U

My LCD is grabled with symetrical colors and shapes and the same image appears when attached to a working external monitor. I guess that means my motherboard needs to be replaced unless there is a secret card slot someplace I haven't been able to find. Poking and prodding on everything I could find that looked like a processor on the motherboard made no difference on the screen image (ie nothing loose or poor connection).

So...does Discreete sometimes mean simply another "chip" soldered on the mb?

Marin85
Senior ThinkPadder
Senior ThinkPadder
Posts: 2975
Joined: Sat May 12, 2007 10:54 am
Location: Munich, Germany

Re: Help understanding GPU--Discreet vs Integrated

#2 Post by Marin85 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:36 pm

On most laptops even the discrete gpu is soldered to the mobo and hence is not replaceable. Only some recent models like W700 (and probably W500) and some Asus laptops are built so that the gpu is replaceable/upgradable.

Regarding integrated vs. discrete gpus -> Graphics processing unit (wiki)

Marin
IBM Lenovo Z61p | 15.4'' WUXGA | Intel Core 2 Duo T7400 2x 2.16GHz | 4 GB Kingston HyperX | Hitachi 7K500 500 GB + WD 1TB (USB) | ATI Mobility FireGL V5200 | ThinkPad Atheros a/b/g | Analog Devices AD1981HD | Win 7 x86 + ArchLinux 2009.08 x64 (number crunching)

Grumpy
Posts: 42
Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:05 pm

Re: Help understanding GPU--Discreet vs Integrated

#3 Post by Grumpy » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:41 pm

Thanks Marin for the reply and Wikki ref. Somehow I knew I wasn't going to get out of this without a replacement laptop. Is there any way to EASILY tell from the marketing description whether a card is replaceable via a slot? Certainly seems like that would be desirable. If the W500 uses replaceable video cards I can't tell from the Lenovo descriptions on the website where you build your system.

Now it's off to the T500 forum with some display questions.

ssd_thinkpad
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 872
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:45 am
Location: France Paris

Re: Help understanding GPU--Discreet vs Integrated

#4 Post by ssd_thinkpad » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:08 pm

Grumpy wrote:Is there any way to EASILY tell from the marketing description whether a card is replaceable via a slot?
A hard but also interesting way would be to watch lenovo training videos for the machines you consider. Maybe here you get some ideas if you can replace the gpu.

aaa
ThinkPadder
ThinkPadder
Posts: 1062
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:36 pm

Re: Help understanding GPU--Discreet vs Integrated

#5 Post by aaa » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:28 pm

Grumpy wrote:Is there any way to EASILY tell from the marketing description whether a card is replaceable via a slot?
Good rule of thumb is to assume it does not have a slot, because 99% of the laptops out there don't.

rkawakami
Admin
Admin
Posts: 10055
Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:26 am
Location: San Jose, CA 95120 USA
Contact:

Re: Help understanding GPU--Discreet vs Integrated

#6 Post by rkawakami » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:38 pm

Maybe somewhat less than 99% :) . I took apart a Dell Inspiron 1100 a couple of days ago and found that it has a removable GPU module. As far as determining if a Thinkpad has a removable video card, then I'd suggest looking through the Hardware Maintenance Manual:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... 39298.html
Ray Kawakami
X22 X24 X31 X41 X41T X60 X60s X61 X61s X200 X200s X300 X301 Z60m Z61t Z61p 560 560Z 600 600E 600X T21 T22 T23 T41 T60p T410 T420 T520 W500 W520 R50 A21p A22p A31 A31p
NOTE: All links to PC-Doctor software hosted by me are dead. Files removed 8/28/12 by manufacturer's demand.

Grumpy
Posts: 42
Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:05 pm

Re: Help understanding GPU--Discreet vs Integrated

#7 Post by Grumpy » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:56 pm

Thanks. I'm interested in the T/W500. Looks like they fall in the 99 percentile.

sjthinkpader
Senior ThinkPadder
Senior ThinkPadder
Posts: 2908
Joined: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:29 pm
Location: San Jose, CA

Re: Help understanding GPU--Discreet vs Integrated

#8 Post by sjthinkpader » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:01 pm

I think the G series has removable GPU cards. George should be the expert on this.
T60p 2623-DDU/UXGA IPS/ATI V5200
T60 2623-DCU/SXGA+ IPS/ATI X1400
T43p 2668-H8U/UXGA IPS/ATI V3200
R50p 1832-NU1/UXGA IPS/ATI FireGL T2
X61t 7762-B6U dual touch IPS/64GB SSD
X32 2673-BU6/32GB SSD
755CDV 9545-GBK Transmissive Projection LCD

ajkula66
SuperUserGeorge
SuperUserGeorge
Posts: 15740
Joined: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:28 am
Location: Brodheadsville, Pennsylvania

Re: Help understanding GPU--Discreet vs Integrated

#9 Post by ajkula66 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:32 pm

Someone called... :D ...?

Some versions of G41 have removable nVidia GoForce 5300 GPU with either 64 or 128MB VRAM, but that's about it. As for W500, GPU is soldered to the planar.
...Knowledge is a deadly friend when no one sets the rules...(King Crimson)

Cheers,

George (your grouchy retired FlexView farmer)

AARP club members:A31p, T43pSF

Abused daily: T61p

PMs requesting personal tech support will be ignored.

sjthinkpader
Senior ThinkPadder
Senior ThinkPadder
Posts: 2908
Joined: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:29 pm
Location: San Jose, CA

Re: Help understanding GPU--Discreet vs Integrated

#10 Post by sjthinkpader » Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:37 am

ajkula66 wrote:Someone called... :D ...?

...
You have a 6th sense or there is a hidden notification function on the site only the privileged knows?
T60p 2623-DDU/UXGA IPS/ATI V5200
T60 2623-DCU/SXGA+ IPS/ATI X1400
T43p 2668-H8U/UXGA IPS/ATI V3200
R50p 1832-NU1/UXGA IPS/ATI FireGL T2
X61t 7762-B6U dual touch IPS/64GB SSD
X32 2673-BU6/32GB SSD
755CDV 9545-GBK Transmissive Projection LCD

ajkula66
SuperUserGeorge
SuperUserGeorge
Posts: 15740
Joined: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:28 am
Location: Brodheadsville, Pennsylvania

Re: Help understanding GPU--Discreet vs Integrated

#11 Post by ajkula66 » Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:09 pm

sjthinkpader wrote:

Code: Select all

You have a 6th sense or there is a hidden notification function on the site only the privileged knows?
Yu shud nou det KGB nevr sliips... 8)

All jokes aside, I'm subscribed to this forum so I get a notification of every new post...
...Knowledge is a deadly friend when no one sets the rules...(King Crimson)

Cheers,

George (your grouchy retired FlexView farmer)

AARP club members:A31p, T43pSF

Abused daily: T61p

PMs requesting personal tech support will be ignored.

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “ThinkPad R, A, G and Z Series”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests